Livescope out of hand

[Seth]

12 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

At the end of the day, the average size of the 5 fish you weigh-in might be.  Sure.  

But the number of fish you touch during the entire day???   I doubt it.  

Let's talk about how much time each fish you touch spends OUT OF THE WATER.  All of that culling and figuring out which one goes in the box......🙄

Every tourney anglers is going to be guilty of that if they cull fish though. The only way I can see one not being guilty of that is if they only catch a limit or less. If you've got your crap in order with your cull system, you shouldn't have to keep fish out of the water very long anyways.

[fishinwrench]

4 hours ago, Seth said:

If you've got your crap in order with your cull system, you shouldn't have to keep fish out of the water very long anyways.

Our definition of "very long"... and the fishes definition of "Very Long" might pose a problem.    

Speaking of having your crap in order................................................................Wanna hear a conspiracy theory?   The REAL reason for the "Live Release Boat" is so the number of dead fish don't get noticed soon after a weekend event. 😉  

 

[Ryan Miloshewski]

At the end of the day, like anything, it's up to the fishermen to manage it. You don't have to keep your limit of crappie, walleye, white bass, etc. that you are scoping--I know that's crazy but I'm right you know. You can release all of them, in fact.

Have a self-imposed slot limit or number of fish you or, if you're a guide, your clients keep daily if you think you're really negatively effecting the population.

I tend to think it's just the same stuff, different year. Fishermen started with actual, paper graphs. Then sonar came out and it was cheating. Vexilars up north=cheating. Side scan sonar made people lose it. 

I look at a lake like Truman and how many fish are taken out of there daily, with FFS, and how big and healthy the population of the crappie is, and can't really be convinced it's detrimental to a large reservoir--especially crappie. 

 

[snagged in outlet 3]

16 minutes ago, Ryan Miloshewski said:

look at a lake like Truman and how many fish are taken out of there daily, with FFS, and how big and healthy the population of the crappie is, and can't really be convinced it's detrimental to a large reservoir--especially crappie. 

Yet.  I think that’s what everyone is chirping about.   

[Ryan Miloshewski]

21 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

Yet.  I think that’s what everyone is chirping about.   

It's been five years of nonstop FFS catching from guides and everyone else. Spider rigging to FFS overnight in late 2018/early 2019. Would've seen something by now I'd think. Only thing noticed is the crappie are getting bigger faster. 

[fishinwrench]

Here's what I told Todd Castledine.   Am I right or wrong ???? 

 

[Seth]

23 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

Our definition of "very long"... and the fishes definition of "Very Long" might pose a problem.    

Speaking of having your crap in order................................................................Wanna hear a conspiracy theory?   The REAL reason for the "Live Release Boat" is so the number of dead fish don't get noticed soon after a weekend event. 😉  

 

Do bass even float when they die? There was a big fish kill on the Osage last year and a lot of fish were seen floating, but no bass. The bass fishing was terrible after that so I'm assuming they took a big hit too though. With all the tourneys out of PB2, you'd think the banks would be lined with dead bass.

[Seth]

7 hours ago, Ryan Miloshewski said:

It's been five years of nonstop FFS catching from guides and everyone else. Spider rigging to FFS overnight in late 2018/early 2019. Would've seen something by now I'd think. Only thing noticed is the crappie are getting bigger faster. 

I feel like the average size fish we catch on LoZ has gotten better as well. We rarely keep anything under 10" these days. Up until a few years ago, we always kept quite a few 9-9.5" fish to fill out our limits.

[fishinwrench]

2 hours ago, Seth said:

Do bass even float when they die?

It depends, and I'm not sure what it depends on.  The gases inside the body cavity obviously.

I've had aquariums and usually the dead fish do NOT float......but occasionally they do.   More often than not the ones that die have to be scooped off the bottom.     

Maybe one of our armchair biologists can explain that to our satisfaction. 🤔 

Way back in my baitshop working days the minnow tanks always had a few dead floaters AND lots of dead sinkers. The dead sinkers got thrown in the crawdad tank......The dead floaters got pitched outside to feed the coons.

Gigged Smallmouth and Trout always seem to sink.  🤷‍♂️

[snagged in outlet 3]

2 hours ago, Seth said:

Do bass even float when they die?

Trout sink.   I’ve always heard the horror stories of summer bass tournament's having a bunch of dead fish the next day.  I’ve never witnessed it.  Has anyone witnessed that?   Were they floaters?