Livescope out of hand

[Mitch f]

1 hour ago, fishinwrench said:

I absolutely hate the word "data". 🙄

There’s no F’ng data that’s any good when addressing Livescope…it changes by the hour 

[Big Bass Tour]

12 hours ago, Mitch f said:

That will change soon my friend. Livescope will rule everything soon and goodbye old data 

We rely on real time data not old data. We know exactly what's happening in the moment and we have the ability to look back at any data point over any range for the last 15 years. It's going to be okay, FFS isn't the boogie man, it's just a tool. Just like all the tools that have evolved our sport since it's inception. You'll just have to trust that we know more about our format and how it applies. If not, that's ok too.  Take care. 

[snagged in outlet 3]

44 minutes ago, Big Bass Tour said:

We rely on real time data not old data. We know exactly what's happening in the moment and we have the ability to look back at any data point over any range for the last 15 years. It's going to be okay, FFS isn't the boogie man, it's just a tool. Just like all the tools that have evolved our sport since its inception. You'll just have to trust that we know more about our format and how it applies. If not, that's ok too.  Take care. 

What data do you collect, how do you get it and where does it come from?  You know where each fish was caught?   I went to the site and saw all the points on the maps.  Not bashing.  I’m really interested.  

[Lvn2Fish]

13 hours ago, Mitch f said:

There’s no F’ng data that’s any good when addressing Livescope…it changes by the hour 

Here’s some data 8 keepers so far this morning 7 live scope fish . 1 non live scope fish . The later was 4lbs and the biggest of the day so far . 🤔

[Mitch f]

1 hour ago, Lvn2Fish said:

Here’s some data 8 keepers so far this morning 7 live scope fish . 1 non live scope fish . The later was 4lbs and the biggest of the day so far . 🤔

I ain’t gonna argue with you. But you should be able to spot a fishes size on Livescope. Plus the fact that you caught all those fish on Livescope means you would have a greater chance of catching a bigger one.

[Big Bass Tour]

3 hours ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

What data do you collect, how do you get it and where does it come from?  You know where each fish was caught?   I went to the site and saw all the points on the maps.  Not bashing.  I’m really interested.  

It's not about fish catch data and let me do a better job of explaining the FFS impact or lack thereof.  We pay 210 paid places over a three day weekend and have 7 hourly weigh ins each day and approx 80-85% of the checks cut are "uniques" meaning the angler cashed one check for the entire weekend. 10-15% are 2 checks and less than 5% are 3 checks or more. That data is both historical data and real time from this year and this weekend and it doesn't change much event by event.

This is due to a number of factors related to our format. 

1. We limit the number of fish in the livewell

2. You leave your spot multiple times a day to run to a weigh in and it either gets backfilled by another boat or you end up somewhere else after you weigh your fish.

3. Regardless of "how" you caught your fish, the single biggest factor that affects cashing a check or placing in a one fish format, is the strategy around what hour it's weighed in and how many other anglers are weighing in that hour and their subsequent decisions. Example: A 5 pound fish in one hour can win it and in another hour could be 4th etc

There's other factors impacting this as well but you get the point. FFS may help someone locate fish quicker and potentially help them find a bigger fish but its overall impact is muted considerably by how you play the one fish game. 

Certainly over time the number of anglers using FFS will increase across all tournament formats but you won't be able to get around navigating the hourly format and the most important factor influencing you getting paid and that's strategy and understanding the format and how the day is playing out and paying attention to the real time leaderboard, not starring at your FFS...  Hope that helps.