Apple River stabbing trial ?

[tjm]

47 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

kids

Drunks not kids, kids can't get drunk, it's against the laws.

 

47 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

video footage that was difficult to decipher.   

must why the jury ruled the way they did, they couldn't figure out the video

Mui is a  foreign guy in that he was born in Europe, but he went to high school and college in Minnesota, so maybe not as foreign as some voters.

[fishinwrench]

The part that irritates me the most is that everyone ignored the FIRST law that was broken......Which was underage kids aquiring Tito's Vodka and getting wasted. 

Could have been a really good lesson WHY there are such laws.   

But now it's ok for kids to be hammered and obnoxious....and everyone has to babysit their drunken @$$£s, and make sure they get home safely.   🙄

[bfishn]

8 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

...But now it's ok for kids to be hammered and obnoxious....and everyone has to babysit their drunken @$$£s, and make sure they get home safely.   🙄

It's gone full circle in our lifetimes then, that's how I remember teens that were so inclined in the '70s, except for the babysitting part. The police were pretty good at getting them (us) home safely. "Pour it out and I'll follow you home. Drive right or I'll tell your Dad". 

Followed by ~40 years of Go Directly To Jail - Do Not Pass Go - Do Not Collect $200.

We had "The Pabst Man". Some old dude that would buy you anything for a six of PBR. If the liquor store was open, so was he. Being farm kids with (mostly) parents that wouldn't tolerate such mischief, we had to keep our stashes in road culverts. Problem was, all the guys knew all the culverts, so you never kept anything long. Then there was freeze loss... if you've never popped the cap on a bottle of beer and have a beersicle grow an inch out the neck, you haven't lived.

[snagged in outlet 3]

3 hours ago, bfishn said:

It's gone full circle in our lifetimes then, that's how I remember teens that were so inclined in the '70s, except for the babysitting part. The police were pretty good at getting them (us) home safely. "Pour it out and I'll follow you home. Drive right or I'll tell your Dad". 

Followed by ~40 years of Go Directly To Jail - Do Not Pass Go - Do Not Collect $200.

We had "The Pabst Man". Some old dude that would buy you anything for a six of PBR. If the liquor store was open, so was he. Being farm kids with (mostly) parents that wouldn't tolerate such mischief, we had to keep our stashes in road culverts. Problem was, all the guys knew all the culverts, so you never kept anything long. Then there was freeze loss... if you've never popped the cap on a bottle of beer and have a beersicle grow an inch out the neck, you haven't lived.

I’m 63 and we drank before 21.   But we never acted like these idiots on float trips do now.  We quit floating years ago when the morons took over.  

[Daryk Campbell Sr]

14 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

The part that irritates me the most is that everyone ignored the FIRST law that was broken......Which was underage kids aquiring Tito's Vodka and getting wasted. 

Could have been a really good lesson WHY there are such laws.   

But now it's ok for kids to be hammered and obnoxious....and everyone has to babysit their drunken @$$£s, and make sure they get home safely.   🙄

Somehow,  it seems common to skip the original source of the problem.   The original domino,  that  if left alone,  would have kept the whole structure together.  

Your day to day work has taught you to look for that, and that's what we as a society could use.   Unfortunately problem solving is no longer taught in schools,  truly.  My kids are taught how to test and score well.   I have spent a lot of time teaching my kids and scouts how to problem solve.   It makes life much easier.