hidden costs, rusting relics.

[BilletHead]

Along the lines of this discussion,

  I knew it was just a matter of time. 😄

[tjm]

Nuke plants have the same problem that wind mills do; there simply is no good way to dispose of or recycle the waste.

[BilletHead]

3 minutes ago, tjm said:

Nuke plants have the same problem that wind mills do; there simply is no good way to dispose of or recycle the waste.

That is a fact.

[Terrierman]

4 hours ago, BilletHead said:

   Cool!  I think they are pretty safe here in the United States as long as they are not close to a coastal natural disaster potential and if we are not in a war. The other plus would be a warm water winter fishing situation. 

Think banks of ultra centrifuges, not electric generation with all the heat rejection.

[Terrierman]

13 hours ago, tjm said:

Nuke plants have the same problem that wind mills do; there simply is no good way to dispose of or recycle the waste.

I get what you are saying about nuclear waste.  But what on a windmill presents a similar problem?  Don't say fiberglass or carbon fiber, there's a lot more of those products in other applications than wind turbines.  Boats and cars for a couple of examples.  

[tjm]

1 hour ago, Terrierman said:

Boats and cars for a couple of examples.  

Yes same problem, smaller scale. Different problem though, like bringing up oranges in a discussion  of wheat harvest.  

You can't be "green"  and still have electricity. Every means of producing it is environmentally destructive and we can't even guess to what long term extent in advance. We  could all reduce our impact by using less of it, but we won't, it's easier to shift the blame to the fuel/method of electrical production or to automobile emissions or  to simply ignore the problems.

I do think that when the fresh water shortage becomes enough of a problem that we have to invent desalinization that we might  develop electricity as a byproduct and that even though it would be destructive to those portions of the sea shore where they are located, we could blame the water plant rather than our choice to have AC. 
 

[Flysmallie]

I love how everyone has been programmed to attack "green" energy and to protect big profit energy. There are a lot of great ways to safely create energy. But in this country, profits are king. Nothing, not even your life, is more important. 

[tjm]

I don't attack "green energy"; there isn't any such thing except in propaganda. All power production is more or less equal in that all are somewhat destructive, and we don't know and can't predict to what extent. It comes down to the devil you want to embrace.

[Flysmallie]

1 hour ago, tjm said:

All power production is more or less equal in that all are somewhat destructive, and we don't know and can't predict to what extent. 

 

Not really but there's not much science used in the opinions of most Americans. 

Oh well, luckily none of this affects me. Carry on padding the profits of the elite. 

[tjm]

 Oh, I will when the elite start  selling whale oil lamps instead of electricity.