Big M area 12/18

7 hours ago, Gavin said:

In the lab not in the wild. It is plainly stated in the article you posted. Smallmouth will hybridized with all of the other smalljaw species in the wild, but not largemouth. If you call a fish a  Meanmouth you are just misinformed.

That is not how I understood paragraph 8 when they were discussing Squaw Creek in TX.

1 hour ago, Quillback said:

Well I guess I am misinformed, I'll keep calling them meanmouth.  If I tell people I caught a hybrid, they'll assume it's a white bass/striper cross.  

I wasn’t giving you trouble about what you call them, I just find them to VERY interesting however they cross👍

1 hour ago, Smalliebigs said:

I wasn’t giving you trouble about what you call them, I just find them to VERY interesting however they cross👍

Wasn't you, I know.  I also think they are a neat fish whatever they are called and how they got crossed.  Be pretty neat if there was a cheap, quick DNA test kit available to us to make a quick check before releasing them.  Maybe something for Tackle HD to work on?  😜

 

Edit - I am not mad at anybody BTW.  

9 hours ago, Gavin said:

In the lab not in the wild. It is plainly stated in the article you posted. Smallmouth will hybridized with all of the other smalljaw species in the wild, but not largemouth. If you call a fish a  Meanmouth you are just misinformed.

you must not have read far enough into the article i posted.  here is a quote - "When smallies were added to newly constructed Squaw Creek Reservoir in Texas, they soon hybridized and backcrossed with both northern and Florida subspecies of largemouths that were already in the impoundment. In 1993, Rich Fry caught an 8-pound 3-ounce bass from a Pennsylvania mine pit that was genetically identified as a first-generation hybrid of a largemouth and a smallmouth bass".

bo

Bream, bluegill , perch...   hybrid, meanie,.....  potato/pahtatto.   

bottom line is that those meanmouth are flat fun to catch because they fight even harder than a pure brownie.  glad to have a few in the lake.

bo

let's say a generation for a bass is 10 years.  What will happen to the bass population in 5 or 10 generations of mixed breeding?  Will every bass be a hybridized specie?

I was under the impression that most hybrids are sterile. Given your 5-10 generation concept, it could be an issue with reduced natural spawning success.

5 minutes ago, Blll said:

I was under the impression that most hybrids are sterile. Given your 5-10 generation concept, it could be an issue with reduced natural spawning success.

I asked an AGFC fisheries biologist that question and he told me these bass hybrids are capable of spawning.  

I doubt that the population would change much.  How many of these "meanmouth" do you guys catch in a year?  I only remember catching a couple at Stockton and a guest caught one once.