MOPanfisher

Remember some of the boats you see on the lakes that cut between you and the banks, and act like idiots, well they drive trucks too.

Nice,. The helicopters add a little spice to the day, been a while since I had one come by.

Sometimes it can be tough to get in and out of a truck, depending on situation. Sometimes when I grandson sit we go places in my truck, just a normal extended cab F150. As a rule I park a long way away, usually at the last cart return with one space between my vehicle and the cart corral, no body wants to park there. Getting the door open and back door open to get grandson out of car seat, add a little wind and doors can move fast. I have come back and had folks parked so close we had to maneuver a little to get him and out stuff into the truck. The guys you ran into are just A-holes.

Whew I am glad I have never hooked myself.

It is a gogler, and btw green sunfish are delicious.

Sometimes it seems like everything is in your gavor, weather, eater conditions, good reports and still can't catch a cold. Other times everything seems to be against you except you have the opportunity and desire to go, expecting little but a few hours in the water, and that time you whack em good. What fun it be if you knew every time what was gonna happen.

I had someone once tell me the best whiskey was O.P's. When questioned he revealed it meant "Other Peoples".

Now that is my kind of road trip.!!

Sounds DELICIOUS Terrierman. I can almost smell it cooking. I used to worry about how something I cooked would turn out at big offices lunches etc. but nobody has ever complained even when it didn't quite go as planned. If they complain they inherit the cooking duties! One year I set up my smoker, had it loaded with LOTS of stuff, a co-worker and I took the next day off, and sat there near the office from about midnight on, drinking beer, listening to the radio, snoozing and checking on the smoker. By lunch I don't remember much except that leftovers were not a problem.

Don't be silly, you can't put a ned as a chaser, scares the fish.

Received confirmation of zebra mussels in the Lower Truman lake area yesterday. So they are now in Truman as well.

Hmm that might slow some folks down if they start getting smacked in the face by bigheads.

We had an outbreak of dead common carp several years ago on Pomme up around the Bolivar Landing area. Seemed to be only affecting carp and drum or buffalo. If memory serves it was some variation of a herpes virus. Wider what in the world the people up there were doing. Imagine the smell if an entire section of the osage or MO rover were to have a sudden die off of big heads and silvers.

I pretty well agree Lancer09, what may be an issue is that the current owner didn't build the dam, do they still maintain liability/responsibility for its repair and/or removal? As for cutting off the access, that sucks but if they own the access they can close it. Maybe the state could make a deal with the owners, state removes the dam, in exchange the access becomes public forever. Would be an expensive access for sure.

are there Big heads in LOZ? I knew they were in the river below Bagnell, but hadn't heard of them in the lake proper.

Ness, I have had a similar experience with Southern Comfort way back in my college days. Just the mention of it bring back some very unpleasant fuzzy memories.

Thanks OldPlug. I suspected it was required to follow the NEC, but didn't know of the fire dept. connection, or if any enforcement. I know we have to install GFCI outlets anywhere within 6 ft. of a water source or something like that at our office. I assume the major difference on a dock would be that the outlet / box also would need to be rated for wet/damp locations.

Old Plug, since I know very little about the docks at LOZ I have a question. Is there a requirement (from Ameren or county ordinance) that required the docks to be wired according to a code, such as the national electric code, or any requirement for annual inspection. Realizing that there is no way they could enforce an annual inspection but just curious.

Somewhat interesting article I receved in e-mail this morning. Zequanox, which I have heard of, is apparently a derivative of a naturally occurring soil bacteria, maybe some lakes have an extra high level of the bacteria and it acts as an inhibitor?? Michigan has new weapon against invasive zebra and quagga mussels Detroit Free Press By Keith Matheny Monday, August 15, 2016 http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/08/14/researchers-enlist-new-tool-against-invasive-zebra-quagga-mussels/88481078/ Researchers say they believe they may have finally found a safe, effective means of combating one of the Great Lakes' most persistent and damaging aquatic invaders — zebra and quagga mussels. But completely eradicating the invaders from Michigan's waterways remains a pipe dream, experts say. Almost three decades after being discovered in Lake St. Clair, likely arriving in the ballast water of freighters that traveled through eastern Europe, zebra and quagga mussels can now be abundantly found in each of the Great Lakes and most major river systems in the eastern U.S. Though only about the size of a dime, the mussels reproduce quickly, eat voraciously and clump together, clinging to almost anything in the water. ► Related:NASA joins fight against invasive Great Lakes shoreline plant ► Related:Goats eating invasive plants in Ottawa County They have all but crowded out native clam species and have disrupted the base of the aquatic food chain — vacuuming up the tiniest plants and animals upon which aquatic insects and small fish feed. Those, in turn, are eaten by the large game fish that create a multibillion-dollar fishing tourism industry in Michigan. Zebra and quagga mussels also cost industries, businesses and communities $5 billion between 1993 and 1999 by clogging water intake pipes, according to congressional research, with $3.1 billion of that cost coming from the power industry alone. The few options to fight the mussels' spread haven't worked beyond an isolated area or threatened other aquatic life. But a relatively new product, expanded for use in a new way, is showing promise. Zequanox is derived from dried, dead cells from a common North American soil bacterium, Pseudomonas fluorescens. The stuff is everywhere, said Carolyn Link, a regulatory affairs manager with Marrone Bio Innovations, the product's manufacturer, based in Davis, Calif. "You probably have Pseudomonas under your fingernails right now," she said. The state of New York's power industry was looking for a solution to its increasingly clogged water-intake pipes full of zebra and quagga mussels, without using harsh chemicals "that are known to be harmful to the environment, the equipment, and can be harmful to workers," said Keith Pitts, a vice president of regulatory and government affairs with Marrone Bio. Mussels on the moveBuy Photo Mussels on the move (Photo: Martha Thierry, Detroit Free Press) The industry commissioned help from the New York State Museum's Cambridge Field Research Laboratory, and a biologist there, Daniel Malloy, discovered Pseudomonas' effectiveness in eradicating zebra and quagga mussels. Active compounds from the dead bacterial cells break down the stomach lining of zebra and quagga mussels relatively quickly — but have little effect on anything else in the water. Scientists aren't exactly sure why, but it could be because native organisms are conditioned to the North American bacteria, while zebra and quagga mussels, originating from eastern Europe, are not, Link said. Marrone Bio now commercially produces Malloy's discovery, creating Zequanox from dead Pseudomonas bacteria cells cultivated in large fermenters at their facility in Bangor, Mich., about 20 miles west of Kalamazoo. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency approved Zequanox for use in water-intake pipes in 2012, and then expanded its possible applications to include open water in 2014. It has also been issued a "tolerance exemption," meaning the EPA determined "there is no concentration of this product that is harmful as a residue, including coming into contact with food or water that you drink," Pitts said. The U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) was involved in years of testing of Zequanox on "non-target animals" — basically, everything else that could be in a lake. "It's a fairly specific product for (zebra and quagga) mussels. It's very promising that it doesn't just kill everything when you put it in the water," said Jim Luoma, a research fisheries biologist with the USGS Upper Midwest Environmental Sciences Center in La Crosse, Wis. But thus far, Zequanox has only been used in isolated portions of lakes that were cordoned off with special barriers. Now, a nonprofit environmental advocacy organization in northern Lower Michigan, the Tip of the Mitt Watershed Council, is working with Marrone Bio, state and federal environmental agencies and multiple universities to conduct the first open-water test. Tip of the Mitt officials hope to find their test lake this summer, one that has both native and invasive mussels, said Matt Claucherty, the organization's water resources specialist. "The project is designed to gauge the effectiveness to eliminate invasive mussels" in an open-water application, "but it's also to look at any ill effects to native mussels," he said. "We also need to find a lake that has calm bays — lake currents are going to be something we'll have to look at, and, hopefully, minimize any dilution forces." But the top priority, Claucherty said, is making sure lake associations and those who use the chosen lake are "on board and comfortable with this," he said. "The reality is, this stuff isn't poison," he said. "It's not even a chemical. It's a desiccated bacterial cell — not even a living bacterial cell. It's found in soil naturally." Further research will help determine the most limited concentrations and exposure durations of Zequanox that work on zebra and quagga mussels in open water, while not harming other aquatic life, Link said. Company officials may also learn of adjustments they can make to formulations of the product, currently designed for intake pipes, that make it more effective in open-water applications, she said. After finding a suitable test lake, researchers will next summer do test applications of Zequanox in about a 3-acre portion of its lake bottom, Claucherty said. In addition to measuring Zequanox's effectiveness against zebra and quagga mussels and whether native mussel species are impacted, University of Michigan scientists specializing in algae, invertebrates such as aquatic insects, and water quality will also make evaluations, he said. That ongoing review will likely extend into 2018, he said. "Stepping stones," Claucherty said. "We're building upon a body of knowledge surrounding this method of control, and hopefully, advancing it in a way that opens doors for control of invasive mussels — actually restoring portions of lakes, creating refuges for native mussels would be on the horizon." If that sounds like a less-lofty goal than totally eliminating zebra and quagga mussels and returning the Great Lakes and other waterways to their natural balances, it's just being realistic. "You're not going to eradicate zebra mussels from a water body once they are established," Luoma said. But Zequanox could perhaps be used to control the invaders in at least some locations and situations, he said.

It's a very delicate metaphor, with the harmony of the toasted bread and the sun toasted deck lumber. Heck I have quick picking tomatoes, they are just rotting now. Guess I otta pick some, but the cantalouoes are producing amongst the weed patch where the garden is. My wife brought 3 into the house and they are about to stink us out, so I know they will be a delicious lunch.

The owners are in a tough spot, right now they have a known hazard, it is in serious need of repair or removal. The let the streams be natural crowd will be all for removal, the save it for water levels and trout will want to repair it. Either option is gonna be expensive, require the approval and oversight of multiple agencies, and take a while. Plus it's probably a historic structure which gets at least one more acronym involved.

I suspect they will adapt in time, most invasive are pretty good at adapting. It could well be that they ate in Pomme and Stockton but the conditions are not suited to an explosive growth. Wrench, I heard that the Milkweed Union was going to try to put missouri dairies out of business by producing hybrid plants that will out produce a holstein, supposedly being pushed by Donald Trump.

Thank you bfishn for setting it straight. Even with his assurances I wasn't willing to bet my life or anyone else's life on it.

Bozinek, yep we know yours is DC, we just sort of drifted away to another topic, very seldom happens on Ozark Anglers.

I wish I could remember enough of the explanation he gave to make it make sense. Something about how any "stray" current would try to return to source but with the solar there was not an available source for it to return to. ??? Hopefully one of you electrical enginger types can explain it, or say that it's a load of hooey. I know that testing the circuit on a dock wired for solar is a little different, with a regular GFCI tester it won't teio, but you can create a direct short between hot and neutral and it will trip.