Johnsfolly

I sent the photo onto Robert Hrabik who is currently revising the Fishes of Missouri guidebook. His response was highfin carpsucker.

Congrats on a very nice rainbow! Go catch some more! We used to fish some strip pits that we called extreme adventure fishing. Similarly we would often have to climb up and down cliffs to get to the water. I once caught a 6+ lb channel cat which I am certain someone switched at the last minute for the 8 lb bass that was on my line . I thought about keeping the catfish for dinner. I looked at the catfish and then at the 16 foot cliff above me and then at the catfish.... Needless to say that catfish swam off strong !

So I pulled out the Fishes of Missouri 2nd edition to look over this guy again. The first pair was between the quillback and the other carpsuckers (i.e., highfin and river). The features for the quillback were: A lack of a projection on the lower lip - well we can't see the lower lip The upper jaw does not extend beyond the front of the eye - hard to tell from the photo but looks like it might not extend beyond the front of the eye. Quillback had 36 or 37 lateral line scales - this fish appears to have 36 again hard to tell from the photo; the other carpsuckers have from 34 to 36 lateral line scales The length of the snout is about equal to the distance from the back of the eye to the upper end of the gill opening - on this fish the snout is much shorter than the distance from the back of the eye to the gill opening Based upon that last feature, I went to the pairing for the highfin and river carpsuckers. For a highfin the primary dorsal ray is approximately as long or longer than the length of the dorsal fin - it does not appear that on this fish that the dorsal ray is that long For a highfin the standard length (length from tip of snout to the base of the tail (caudal peduncle)) is les than 2.6 times the body depth (distance from belly to top of the back) - for this fish its standard length is 2.26 times its depth The river carpsuckers does not have a long primary dorsal ray and its length is at last 2.6 times its body depth. To me the weight of evidence is that @Al Agnew is correct about this fish being a highfin carpsucker.

I'm talking about out here in the Chesapeake. we have really bad water quality here in the summer. Also people around here think that fish are indestructible. I have been really bad at catching any eaters this year. Only had a meal of catfish this year. I'm slacking for sure.

Healthy looking fish Jeff! Last year there was really high catch and release mortality in the summer from the recreational fisheries. So we are being asked to refrain from any striper fishing if the water temp gets too hot to hold adequate O2 levels.That may be most afternoons in the shallower waters near the banks.

Looks like more investigation is needed ! I'll dig thru some keys and see if there are identifying features in the original photo possibly those that have been discussed already or others that will help with this id.

She sounds hideous. Well she's a guy! Have to be my favorite lines!

Jeff I would agree with you that it is likely a quillback. @curtisce pretty cool fish. @BilletHead is right am a bit jealous of a cool catch like that guy.

Congrats! It's been a while since I have seen that nice of a brown trout from that river.

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The hard decision to make is to cull the deer. Snipers would cost far less or better yet sell tags to bowhunters and actually make money. Still having 2000 deer castrated or not will still result in collisions.

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That looks great Marty! I will keep an eye out for a lid. I haven't seen a hammered piece before, but I do dig around looking for iron. So maybe I will stumble across one.

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I have an honorable mention; not real a goal per se. I want to get a photo of all of the fish species that I have caught. After a couple of tries that failed mainly due to moving to MD and flooding, I pulled off a hail Mary and caught and photographed an Ozark bass. I used information provided to me from fellow OAF folks and picked a likely spot on Finley creek to give it another try. I was fishing a John Deere microjig about 14 inches under a float. I caught two green sunfish before getting an Ozark to bite and be photographed. Now if I can catch a Roanoke bass. May have to be a 2021 goal .

It's been years over 5 or 6 yrs since I last fished the CA and Z3. Impressions were that the bedrock sections of ghe stream in the CA we slicker than ice and held few if any fish. The browns that I encountered were very skittish and more often ran when anything disturbed the water. I was spin fishing. May be better with flies. Some productive holes were nothing more than deeper water runs and not a true hole. I thought that there was some signage when you get to Z3 but can't remember. I remember a cabin that is easier to see going downstream from the park than upstream from the CA that was near the border. Definitely less bedrock sections in Z3. Good luck.

Thats a pig! Girth must be 1.5 times its length. With their coloration you should be able to id individuals.. Have you caught all of them from that pond?

The fishing trips in Kansas continue. I am really focused on trying to catch a new darter. Looking at maps Deep Creek below Manhattan KS looks promising. We tried a bridge access that actually had a deep pool and nice riffles below the pool. The water was very clear and I saw lots of fish when looking from the bridge. Got my gear and Livie came along. She was fishing a Trout magnet minijig head with a piece of redworm below a small float. I had on a #26 Tanago hook with a single split shot above the hook and a tiny piece of worm. There were lots of micros in the riffles and shallow pools. Livie hooked up first and she landed a green sunfish then another. Then she caught a longear sunfish as well. So she had probably 5 to 6 fish before I landed my first micro. I was thinking that this might have been a sand shiner which is common in KS streams. With a dark stripe and a dark spot on the tail. I caught another small one and then a larger minnow. All with the same markings. Looking at my guides I determined that these abundant minnow were bluntnose minnows. While I was working on those micros, Livie began catching minnows as well with catches of common shiners and creek chubs. I was getting closer to the deeper water that Livie was catching fish after fish when she called "Madtom! Madtom!" as a large madtom came swimming somewhat erratically downstream towards me. I put my bait in front of this fish several times and it avoided the bait each time. I watched where it went. I got Livie in position to get a bait under the large rock where it swam. She pulled out another longear and a green sunfish, but no madtom. We saw either the same fish three different times or three different fish that all swam erratically and as if it was injured. Livie eventually caught it by hand. Looked to be a stonecat, but neither of us caught it on our hooks. I saw and even smaller madtom that Livie also caught by hand. It was a slender madtom, which we both have caught previously. I did see a single minnow amongst the many minnows but it had orange dorsal, pectoral, and anal fins. It stood out from all the others. I even think that I had it on my bait, but I could not land it. After looking at the guides, this fish may actually have been a Topeka shiner a very rare species. I never got another chance at that fish. After catching quite a few more commons shiners and sunfish it was time to move to our last fishing spot in KS. Back to where it all began for Livie to try for some green fish and a few that would give her a big tug on the line !

Looks Great Ness! Do like the clams and linguini!

Double DANG!!! Looks great buddy!

Once you get over 20 its a tedious labor of love. Rarely keep more than 8 to 12 for a family fry.

Look into the MDC Blue Ribbon trout stream slam. That will show you which creeks have stream bred trout. Some spots can meet your expectations of a wilderness fishing trip. A few other folks on OAF have been posting some of their catches towards their slams. Good luck and report back.

Now that 2020 is half over time to revisit again goals for 2020. Even with COVID-19 slowing things down, I got back on track somewhat. Willing to run the gauntlet of COVID across the country has helped my goals. Catch a fish in 1 new state - I have fished in Maryland, Delaware (pre- post-COVID outbreak (PRC and PSTC)), North Carolina (PC), South Carolina (PC), Missouri (PSTC), Kansas (PSTC), and Nebraska (PSTC) but it was only NE that was a new state. I only had a few hours to fish and waited nearly an hours for a monsoon to pass before fishing. I landed four green sunfish from a small lake and lost a couple of micros on that trip. Still got State #29 in the books. Catch a MD native brook trout or stripers on fly rod (BH flies) Catch 12 Lifelist species - Including: - caught 4 new life list species Added two more since March - now hallway to my 2020 goal Margined madtom from MD Caught an orangespotted sunfish in KS that was both a new lifer as well as my second new sunfish of the year! New lifer darter and/or sculpin Found and fished for Prairie Orangethroat darters in KS but no luck. Missed an opportunity for tessellated darters in MD. Getting close. American Shad - Accomplished - caught in Tar River NC Northern Kingfish or Black Drum - Caught Black Drum in SC Three new sunfish sp. - Caught flier sunfish in MD; Orangespotted sunfish in KS Two shark species including dogfish sp. Trips - White River/Norfork River - March/April - COVID Cancelled - NJ/DE for Black Drum - May/June - COVID Cancelled - Lake Erie - May - COVID Cancelled - Chincoteague Island July-Sept - spadefish trip June-Aug - Flathead/Blue catfish in Potomac or Susquehanna - Pike or Musky trip Hope that others are getting along towards whatever goals that you might have had for 2020.

You know that you just never know what may hit when fishing that magic time around 1 am on Taney. I still remember how that white sucker hit my jig and ran on me. I was thinking that was going to be that first Taney brown. Not disappointed at all when we landed that fish. I have got to get back out with you @JestersHK Especially on a night when I don't have to look like this :