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Comment periods are open for Ozark Mountain and Bryant Creek following meetings on each. Dec. 7 there will be a comment meeting at Johnson Shut -ins State Park on the Jay Nixon State park from 6-8. Here are the talking points from CFM to keep the parks: Talking Points for New State Parks Missouri Parks Association, 12-1-17 Historically, new parks have not been immediately developed. The first parks acquired in the 1920’s received their first significant development by the Civilian Conservation Corps and the Works Progress Administration in the 1930’s. There were five undeveloped state parks when the Parks and Soils Sales Tax first passed in 1984. Any new parks need a period of assessment and planning. Development and staffing should follow in stages. Public access could occur within a relatively short time for activities that do not require extensive infrastructure, yet can be supported by the parks’ natural environment. State Parks are economic assets to the local communities, counties, and the state. Studies have shown they have profoundly positive economic impact. The parks attract visitors who spend money at local businesses. The state spends in the local area for operation and maintenance of the parks. The parks provide full and part-time jobs in the park and in businesses in the local area. These activities produce tax revenues for communities and counties. While it will take time for the lands to be developed and the tax benefits of tourism to be realized, this is an investment that should not be missed. While state parks contribute greatly to Missouri’s tourism economy, the increased opportunity for recreation in the local area is just as significant. Lands of the natural qualities found in these four new parks are rare. The fact that these high quality natural areas still exist in today’s world is something of a miracle. They offer unique opportunities to preserve, educate, and enjoy. Retention of the lands in State Parks for the benefit of present and future generations is an achievable goal, and should be considered necessary to the quality of life in Missouri. The Missouri Park System has prospered for 100 years without resorting to the sale of its lands. Sale or disposal of these lands should not be an option. No one can answer where the funds received from such a sale would be spent. It is extremely doubtful that another use for the funds would benefit so many people in the state, or that any part of the funds would be spent for the benefit of the local communities and counties in the areas of these new parks. Sale of these new park areas is a loss for every citizen of Missouri and a dangerous precedent for the future of the system. Jay Nixon State Park was acquired as an addition to the existing Taum Sauk Mountain State Park, and should not be considered a separate park requiring a separate name. MPA has passed a resolution recommending that Missouri State Parks develop a naming policy for new areas and avoid naming properties for incumbent elected officials. As is the case with this property, naming for incumbents tends to politicize the acquisition and involve state parks in partisan issues. Natural resource management and restoration on these properties should begin in 2018. These are seasonal activities that could be supported at low cost with part-time personnel led by regional park staff. While the impact of these activities is long term, they are also a necessary step to prepare for public use. Planning for public use should begin immediately. Planning activities are typically led by regional and central office staff. The choice to begin planning activities is a choice of priorities rather than cost. Initiating a public planning process should begin with these public meetings. Planning for public access and park development should consider activities that are compatible with the natural and cultural resources of these park areas. As the Missouri State Park System Mission requires, recreation and public use of these new parks must be balanced with preservation and interpretation of the areas’ natural and cultural resources. A survey form and information will be available Dec 4 to Jan 5 on the Missouri State Parks website to submit

Guess we could have our state employees relocate them: Sucker Showdown at Taneycomo Publish Date: Jan 02, 2000 Revised Date: Nov 04, 2010 William Anderson Lake Taneycomo is well known for its rainbow and brown trout. It is not so well known for its white suckers. White suckers, a species native to the White River, have always lived in Lake Taneycomo, historically in moderate numbers. In the late 1980s the numbers of white suckers increased dramatically and, at times, exceeded the number of rainbow and brown trout captured during population surveys conducted by the Conservation Department. Fisheries biologists were concerned about this abrupt increase in the white sucker population. They believed that competition between white suckers and trout for invertebrate organisms that comprised the bulk of the trout diet might cause a decline in the trout fishery. Biologists went so far as to remove white suckers from the lake in an attempt to reduce their numbers. Conservation Department staff captured thousands of the fish and removed them without a detectable effect on the population. Further research indicated that while there was direct competition between white suckers and trout for food items, it was not as serious as first thought. White suckers, being indiscriminate bottom feeders, consumed a lot of filamentous algae and a number of smaller invertebrate organisms. Trout, being sight feeders, fed on larger, free swimming invertebrate organisms, primarily sow bugs and amphipods or freshwater shrimp. The numbers of white suckers in Lake Taneycomo have gradually declined in recent years and in population surveys, they are once again less abundant than trout and competition is less of a concern. The majority of suckers harvested in Missouri are taken by snagging (or grabbing) and gigging. Both methods are time-honored Ozarks traditions. Sucker grabbing is at its best in the spring when these fish move into shallow gravel areas to spawn. It is not uncommon for hundreds of suckers to congregate in a relatively small area. White suckers migrate up Roark and Bull creeks from Lake Taneycomo each spring. Because of their affinity for cold water, they make these runs earlier than other sucker species. Local residents take advantage of the early white sucker spawning run to harvest these fish prior to the later spawning migrations of the redhorse sucker species. White suckers are still abundant in Lake Taneycomo. Knowledgeable anglers can take advantage of their early spawning run for some fast and furious sucker grabbing. During the balance of the year anglers can catch these fish by pole and line using natural or prepared baits. Either method of harvest is a lot of fun and provides excellent food when the fish are properly prepared.

If the only objective is fish, Norfork is the hands down the winner IMOP but if the experience and different scenery matter out west wins. We usually go west a couple 3 times per year for a couple weeks or more. Each time we pull out of the driveway I tell my wife we are leaving better fishing, but we continue to do it. We find if you can/will hike just a bit you can leave the crowds, a pair of snow shoes can get you completely out of crowds.

Darn it Pete we need you Brother!

Think N9bow has the main dish, but without Pete who is in charge of salad? I should have taters if we want them baked or fried?

Thank goodness you did not do it before the beef was butchered, that would be plumb ugly...LOL

Depends on area, many areas are over the counter. Bow hunting, calling and chasing are my only interests. But may take my sons for rifle, the draw has became so odds against for out of state for muzzleloader. It is getting more crowded ever year, used to they could draw every other year.

Me too, but no such luxury in the mountains with a 800 lb elk is where I got started, only here if have too...

He was much better than I am. I usually do not have to worry about capping. I do use a saw to remove the 3 rear ribs to get the tenderloin out. I bone rather than quarter as elk are large. But good information. Thanks Seth.

I know a skiff of ice improves your break dance moves.

My waders are already in the truck, along with a 5 and a 8 wt.... if low flows continue just gotta do it, plus the waders are warm and dry in 24 degrees

I resemble that ....Turkey Shotgun hot loads

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I am working on a plumber from a couple locals, my suspension is a simple restrictor in each faucet,

Is it throughout the building of just the shower? I have a couple of connections.

from the mushroom thread below to the grill mmmmm three major food groups, beef, shrimp and fungi tried again

And it continues

It will work, my boat is best with 2, but seats for 3 and have fished 4, we usually have surplus boats.

I will plan on being by Wed, if you are not there I will return later.

Looking forward to it Michael, we will figure it out.

Enjoyed lunch my friend!

If no one stayed the day before it is usually ready, one year they did not have it clean but was able to set my stuff out and hit the river. I plan on going down Wed. so will try to check in see if you want to fish with us.

Thanks Seth,