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Most Definitely. Could be older than 2700 years before the present date.

Definitely a prehistoric tool IMO. A nice item and thanks for sharing.

A bit more, Archaeology in Missouri - The Missouri Archaeological Society Book on this page is where points I posted are. Timeline for cultures. We have to remember that artifacts that are found in places undisturbed with material that can be dated by carbon analysis. So, we work our way through until the written word which is the historic time when the first Europeans Landed and began to explore. Historic time did not hit everywhere at once just when the various tribes were encountered.

@tjm, More celt pictures from Missouri. Some hematite in these also. Penbrandt Prehistoric Artifacts - Archives - Stone Celts

It is what is called a celt. I personally don't think it is as old as you think or was told. Mississippian or woodland cultures. Looks like granite to me, which is found here in Missouri, but I have seen Celts in collections made of hematite also found in our state. I have seen one being used just like this at primitive skills gathering / knap in before, Celts (peachstatearchaeologicalsociety.org) Ground Stone Artifacts | The Office of the State Archaeologist (uiowa.edu) Indian Use of Hematite | Access Genealogy

Migration and trade routes.

We might have not known you back then to compare but we see it now! 😁 As Foghorn Leghorn said, THIS IS A JOKE SON.

Sometimes we give the fish with a tiny brain too much credit for being smart. Onetime they will hit anything and another time they might be a bit selective. Go to the trout park and watch one come up and eat a cigarette butt a filthy pig tossed into the water. Pressured trout can be selective some. I don't like litterbugs so hate me.

So here are three good examples of Missouri point types I have found. All three are drawn and published in the point types of Missouri book. the first one is a Scottsbluff. This point was pulled out of a cutbank close to the water level. It was in situ that is where it was lost it stayed similar to the ax head the kid in the video pulled out of the bank. All I could see was the side of the point. It was about fifteen feet below the surface and four foot above the stream low level. So many years of floods and topsoil and debris in levels above it. This point is old enough there is a pretty good chance there was still megafauna still roaming around. Mastodon / Mammoth and giant bison types. One of the most perfect points in our collection. One of the few found here that have fine serrations. The base where it would be hafted is ground and polished to keep from cutting the hafting material probably sinew. Pretty proud of this find. Picture of point on drawing and then side by side, Second point is a Breckenridge a type similar to the Dalton. It actually was found about thirty yards downstream of the Scottsbluff location, but it had already dropped out of the bank and had made its way into the river gravel layer. One more highwater event and it would have dropped off into the abyss. One more and it is a Searcy point. It was found on the same river but way down towards the lake. Another cut bank. Again in Situ but not as deep in the bank. Not as old as the other points so not covered with so much soil. Same bank found a Dalton drill a few years back. I pays to pay attention as you work up and down the river. Look for anything on the bank that looks out of place. Pay attention to color and shapes. A note to lookers. IT is illegal to take points or other artifacts from public land such of corps of engineer lakes and land. All these points were well below public land. It is just some FYI and I have never run into anyone yet but they were looking for a former guy I used to hang with at times. He was using his jet boat motor to was lake banks. I seen him do this. Good places to look are where smaller creeks and streams enter larger rivers and streams. High land in the areas that are not prone to flooding. Camps were there and the native peoples liked to be near water. When you see flakes coming out of the bank be alert and keep eyes peeled. There were camps and workshops on site. Days of walking fields are not as good now as no till and light disking does not turn up much. Most of the sites like this you are more likely to find more broken stuff or spent points. Spent points are so worked down they were sometimes discarded when all the usefulness is used. The good points to be found are lost by hunting or a tragic accident by the carrier in places that might surprise you. Good stuff is still out there to be found. Tens of thousands of years of lost and discarded points. Even though there were less human beings they were there for many more years than modern man. Don't overlook even real small creeks. They traveled those like a highway venturing out. A good time is now to walk such gravel bottomed creeks right after a big early spring water event flushes the leaves out. Another way to enjoy the outdoors. Happy hunting to you all!

Yep, when it first came out, I was glued to every report. We learn so much from the past.

As promised, pictures, pictures, pictures 🙂, So, a quick question. Do any of you know how granite tools were made? for those who know or think they know or don't know I will tell you at the end of this post. So here is my ax head. It is a 3/4 groove ax. This means the hafting groves are on three sides. Now another tool, weapon or whatever you want to call it. This was found in Minnesota and just like the ax was given to me by my grandfather. IU have only talked to one guy I know from Iowa that has seen anything like this. He said speculation is this was used to bust open the skull of bison to get to the brain for brain tanning. It is full grooved as the groves go all the way around the stone. The one end is coned shaped into a smaller rounded end. Just slightly smaller than a golf ball diameter. the opposite end is a bit round at first to almost flat. It's a pretty hefty piece. No matter if it was hafted to a handle or used by hand only the user was one tough native. I find this stuff amazing. Ok they were manufactured by peck and grind. So, you take a piece of granite and use a stone that is harder in your hand and begin to hit (peck) your blank and you are only taking minute divots in the blank. Then the blank is ground on another stone such as sandstone or another piece of granite taking off the minute high spots. Then you repeat. The hours put into these tools unreal compared to what can be done today. Same guy in Iowa Mark Boswell has made axes. I have seen him put in hours and hours. Granite was utilized everywhere it is found. When I used to attend knapp ins where we would all make stone points Mark would be there. Easy to find him because the sound he would make compared to the cracking sound of chert being struck off a spall or blank his work sound was a peck, peck, peck all day long. He had the arms of a body builder. When he completed a piece, it shined. He also made catlinite (pipestone) pipes. We did some trading and I have two of his pipes. One is a replica of a bird pipe. If anyone wants to see them, I will post those also. Some cool points will be next

It was very, very good. Had a slice with butter and honey from the BilletHead Apiary last evening for dinner and then again toasted a slice for breakfast. May have one this afternoon to since it was just an apple for lunch.

Much better Rick. I cringed from your remark, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt . I say eat every trout that you want if allowed. We pay for stocking in most places in our state so C&R if you wish or C&Eatum just do it legally.

You know John we have had the go here, go there and over there too finding a license vendor. Anymore we just do it by phone or computer. Easy peasy.

It got a real good flushing. Now it needs to clear up!

That is a nice 3/4 groved ax. I have one in my collection. Grandfather find in north Missouri. Pat and I find some of our better heads from boat. Our serrated Scottsbluff point was found from a boat. Its been published in the Missouri archeologist. For @Johnsfolly and @snagged in outlet 3 I will get pictures later today.

Yes and being smaller length hair can size down to approate hook size.

Back to making sourdough after a long hiatus. Dutch oven cooking vessel. I didn't realize how much I missed doing this. The recipe I followed called for more starter and flour than the ones I did before. 13 hours first raise and three second raise. Looked like allot of dough. I didn't think It would have fit cooking in my 8 Dutch oven. No #10 so I sized up to a #12 and glad I did. It is a beast of a loaf. 11 inches in diameter and 4.5 inches tall. #10 would have been perfect. I can't believe I have three 8 and a 12 and no 10. Need to remedy that! Will slice when Pat gets' home from work. Sure smells good,

You got that right and are encouraged to do just that! Try to make that our wedding day dinner each year we get to go.

Yeppers Happy Birthday!

I am seeing some real progress, Daryk! Small tight heads and good proportions. I like John am wanting to see you get out and catch with the flies you have crafted. Keep us in the loop.

Thank you Jeff for the results and pictures. Need to make it sometime. Cook something for you all.

I like quiche. Used to do it with fresh morels. Need to revisit that during that season. Thank you rps for the reminder.

Very, very nice!

Oh, yea Baby I got to cast that rod. A very nice piece of equipment 😁