Gumbo Yes, Bait No.....

[fishinwrench]

What does this really have to do with transporting non-native species and dumping them and glass on rivers???

You are kinda flying all over the place..

You almost seem surprised. LOL

What it has to do with it is...... I dunno man, just seems like they are picking heavily on the fishing industry and turning a blind eye to the truly serious stuff.

If I'm wrong set me straight, but that's sure the way it feels to me... and it's really getting old.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Well, the crawdad and glass thing should be common sense. Its kinda like getting upset over the ban on drinking and driving.

I would venture to say that in reality, fishing, as we know it, is still pretty wide open. Sure you have limits on some species, and you have some restrictions on lures in certain areas, but we still have a lot of water that is wide open to do just about anything you want.

And on a side note, I checked the current Wildlife Code book when it came out, and the only felt restiction I could find was in the trout parks themselves. Nothing was mentioned about the Red, White, and Blue trout waters. I have been waiting for someone to post about it but I guess it wasn't that important after all.

Anyway, lets get a campfire and a beer and hash this out some more!

[laker67]

And on a side note, I checked the current Wildlife Code book when it came out, and the only felt restiction I could find was in the trout parks themselves. Nothing was mentioned about the Red, White, and Blue trout waters. I have been waiting for someone to post about it but I guess it wasn't that important after all.

Anyway, lets get a campfire and a beer hash this out some more!

Interesting Chief, I will check into that myself. If all this hype only pertains to parks, then I have a pair of vibs for sale.

[Chief Grey Bear]

I have seen signage posted at other trout waters concerning felt, but I don't believe it restricted the use of felt on those waters. It was more of a awarness of didy.

[fishinSWMO]

http://www.mdc.missouri.gov/fishing/regulations/sport-fish-regulations/trout-regulations-and-permits/felt-soled-wader-ban

[ness]

Gavin's right about the 'big' polluters. It's not the MDC's area to police. Isn't that DNR or even EPA or both?

You can't count on self-policing. On the other hand, you can take regs too far or enact bad ones. It's always a balancing act, and it's not always balancing just right.

[MOPanfisher]

So the MDC enacted a new regulation to help keep out an invasive species and somehow we are upset because they (who don't have the power to do it) haven't cracked down on things like sewage retention lagoons? Thats like being mad at the Corps for the State of MO deciding that every floating dock on COE lakes has to have a 911 address sign.

How many of us have actually purchased crawdads for bait, I have used many for bait, but always stopped and caught them from the river I was fishing. I am too cheap to buy them!

[eric1978]

And on a side note, I checked the current Wildlife Code book when it came out, and the only felt restiction I could find was in the trout parks themselves. Nothing was mentioned about the Red, White, and Blue trout waters. I have been waiting for someone to post about it but I guess it wasn't that important after all.

According to the MDC website, felt is banned in all the ribbon sections as well. And I've seen signs at a couple Blue Ribbon accesses. Basically anywhere there's trout, there's no felt.

[fishinwrench]

Just seems to be too many Chiefs and not enough Indians (not You, Chief). Too many biologists and rule makers and not enough feet on the ground to enforce the rules that are already written down.. Anglers and drone planes shouldn't be the only ones noticing environmental violations and fish kills. I think they should let half the biologists and white collar fellas go and offer them a feild agent position.

They could even pay them their current wage for all I care, just have them out doing sonething useful rather than rewriting and lengthening the list of rules and regs.

[Chief Grey Bear]

According to the MDC website, felt is banned in all the ribbon sections as well. And I've seen signs at a couple Blue Ribbon accesses. Basically anywhere there's trout, there's no felt.

Yeah I have seen the web site but can't find that in the book.

Just seems to be too many Chiefs and not enough Indians (not You, Chief). Too many biologists and rule makers and not enough feet on the ground to enforce the rules that are already written down.. Anglers and drone planes shouldn't be the only ones noticing environmental violations and fish kills. I think they should let half the biologists and white collar fellas go and offer them a feild agent position.

They could even pay them their current wage for all I care, just have them out doing sonething useful rather than rewriting and lengthening the list of rules and regs.

http://www.facebook....QBKZsjb3QtLirEm

This is a list of all tickets written by the MDC for the 2011 year. Stoneroller was kind enough to pass it all to me. Seems as if they are a little busier than some want to give them credit for.