Busted

[Ketchup]

That's your calling wrench, to start a new fad or even a book "cursing For dummies".  Yep, I think this mechanic thing is in the past. 

 

Im as guilty as the next guy, when in a high stressed situation, or using foul language to get a point across, but its few and far between.  My son "28" has a few buddies that come over to help buck hay, pull fence, etc. that use the F word every 3rd word..They know how I am, and usually correct themselves within a few minutes of being around.. My guess is it becomes second nature to speak in that manner, and not even realize that your in public, or at someone else's house with ladies or kids present, that you don't even notice your choice of words, or that those people are listening.  I try to be respectful of those I'm around and their families, and using curse words goes against that.  I guess if your one of those that curse a lot, just think of those around you that cringe at your choice of words. 

 

Heres another issue I have.....There's very few things in life I can't tolerate being around, and smoking is at the top of that list.  In my adult life, I've noticed that smokers are some of the most inconsiderate people I have seen when it comes to them not thinking about those that are standing or sitting within smelling distance of their smell.   Nothing like being in public, eating food at a ball game,or wherever, and the dude or chick 2 seat down, upwind from you lights one up, one after another, while I'm trying to eat my food. Forget the food, just the fact that they force non-smokers to breathe that crap without taking that somewhere where there not forcing those around to smell it.  It sticks to the clothing, hair, everything.  Just a VERY nasty habit.  I've been known to voice my thoughts to a stranger, and I've done it more so with smokers than anything  That includes people I know and strangers.  If you smoke, cool as the gov'ment needs your money.... Just think of those around you, and their families that don't, and remove yourself from them before you force your habit on them.  Pretty simple stuff really. 

 

 

[Al Agnew]

I wonder if Missouri will be the last state to ban smoking in bars and restaurants.  Living part of the year in Montana, it's so nice to be able to go into any restaurant and know we don't have to worry about somebody lighting one up in the next booth or across the room (it doesn't much matter how far away they are).  Then we get used to it, and when we come back to Missouri it's always a shock to walk into a cafe and be hit with a wave of reeking smoke.

We stopped at a little grocery store out  in the country the other day, coming back to the house from our land on the Meramec, wanting to get something to drink.  Walked in and the place smelled like a fire in a tobacco barn...a little room about the size of your living room with a lady who was smoking like a chimney and apparently had been all winter with no ventilation whatsoever, so even though the door was open it stank horribly.  I grabbed a Coke from the cooler, hoping that the closed door would have kept some of the smell off it, paid her quickly, and ran back out.  But just from that little time in there, we smelled it for the next 20 miles on our clothes, in our nostril hairs, and of course on the Coke, which I ended up not even drinking.  Can you imagine what all the boxes of food on the shelves smelled like?

[Flysmallie]

1 hour ago, Ketchup said:

My guess is it becomes second nature to speak in that manner, and not even realize that your in public, or at someone else's house with ladies or kids present, that you don't even notice your choice of words, or that those people are listening.

I don't buy that and here is why. I cuss worse than anyone. I'm a horrible foul mouth person when I'm around my buddies. But I don't in front of my momma or in public or around a bunch of kids. I train people for a living and rarely do it in front of my audience, unless it's purposely interjected to get their attention. It seems like second nature to me to know when I can and when I shouldn't. I don't even have to think about it.

[Flysmallie]

25 minutes ago, Al Agnew said:

I wonder if Missouri will be the last state to ban smoking in bars and restaurants.  

Living in Springburg I guess I already assumed that it was banned everywhere. You might still be able to in some bars but I'm not really a bar kind of guy anymore.

[MOPanfisher]

I can be quite foul mouthed or quite clean spoken, depends on the situation.  Put in a cabin for 3 or 4 days with my hunting and fishing buds and the air can get pretty blue, put me in my office talking to the public, I don't.  However there are folks for whom it is so ingrained they don't even realize it.  A very good family friend was a Bataan Death march Survivor, (USMC), and spend some time in a Japanese prisoner of war camp.  When I knew him growing up he was the foulest mouthed, loudest voice individual I ever knew, didn't have a tooth in his head and chewed Redman like a fiend (mmmm I miss Redman).  He was a Veteranarian and spoke the same way to everyone, he would meet you in town and ask how the *&%* you were, his wife was the sweetest non foul mouthed lady ever.  He also had a heart of solid gold, would do anything for your, but that man could curse the paint off a ford tractor.  Honestly I don't care about it, I don't like to hear it around women and kids (just raised that way), but if you want to curse around me fishing etc. I can play right along without losing any sleep.  As for smoking I still enjoy my cigars (too much), but am pretty careful about where and how I smoke them, my truck, my boat, my shop, my rules.  Your shop etc. nope.  cigarettes smell completely different to me.

[ness]

10 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

It would be kinda nice if we had some NEW cuss words.   All of the old standard ones have gotten kinda boring.

Shazbot and make whoopy are kinda new.

[DADAKOTA]

you can add obama as a new cuss word

[ness]

Living in the city, every place I'm in or around is smoke-free. I know I'm not getting out to the hinterlands enough based on this conversation.

Heck, when I was a kid my dad would be driving the station wagon with a pipe or cigar in his mouth while mom smoked her Salems. I'm sure our cars and house smelled like crap, but it never bothered me then. It's really noticeable now, of course. I don't mind it so much, I just avoid it. One thing that bugs me is that so many smokers feel it's ok to pitch a butt on the ground. It's not.

[Ketchup]

1 hour ago, Al Agnew said:

I wonder if Missouri will be the last state to ban smoking in bars and restaurants.  Living part of the year in Montana, it's so nice to be able to go into any restaurant and know we don't have to worry about somebody lighting one up in the next booth or across the room (it doesn't much matter how far away they are).  Then we get used to it, and when we come back to Missouri it's always a shock to walk into a cafe and be hit with a wave of reeking smoke.

We stopped at a little grocery store out  in the country the other day, coming back to the house from our land on the Meramec, wanting to get something to drink.  Walked in and the place smelled like a fire in a tobacco barn...a little room about the size of your living room with a lady who was smoking like a chimney and apparently had been all winter with no ventilation whatsoever, so even though the door was open it stank horribly.  I grabbed a Coke from the cooler, hoping that the closed door would have kept some of the smell off it, paid her quickly, and ran back out.  But just from that little time in there, we smelled it for the next 20 miles on our clothes, in our nostril hairs, and of course on the Coke, which I ended up not even drinking.  Can you imagine what all the boxes of food on the shelves smelled like?

Your a braver guy than myself. I turn and walk out in those situations. Stopped going to a local small cafe due to a new "regular" smelling the place up to the point that I couldn't taste the food over the taste of smoke.  I am a firm believer in freedom in all manners, but it wouldn't hurt my feelings if I never had to smell it ever again.  

 

55 minutes ago, Flysmallie said:

I don't buy that and here is why. I cuss worse than anyone. I'm a horrible foul mouth person when I'm around my buddies. But I don't in front of my momma or in public or around a bunch of kids. I train people for a living and rarely do it in front of my audience, unless it's purposely interjected to get their attention. It seems like second nature to me to know when I can and when I shouldn't. I don't even have to think about it.

You are of above norm from my experiences. Yes everyone can refrain from cursing in certain situations, but to be that way in their normal, everyday life just puzzles me.  Not sure what good it does, or what comes of it?  Don't get me wrong, I've got hunt in' camp buddies that after they drink a few cold ones, they can get pretty foul mouthed. I just don't get it.  

 

13 minutes ago, ness said:

Living in the city, every place I'm in or around is smoke-free. I know I'm not getting out to the hinterlands enough based on this conversation.

Heck, when I was a kid my dad would be driving the station wagon with a pipe or cigar in his mouth while mom smoked her Salems. I'm sure our cars and house smelled like crap, but it never bothered me then. It's really noticeable now, of course. I don't mind it so much, I just avoid it. One thing that bugs me is that so many smokers feel it's ok to pitch a butt on the ground. It's not.

Same here ness. Mom still smokes at 72 with stage 4 cancer, dad passed away in 05' from cancer. Smoked since he was 9.   

 

What gets me riled up is to see a vehicle pull up, mom and pops smoking like a chimney, while their 3 kids in the back seat, windows rolled up, are engulfing their lungs with that nasty stuff by NO CHOICE of their own.  I was one of those kids, like a lot of us. I've rolled down my window on a few occasions and politely mentioned that the kids look like they need some fresh air. Yes I've gotten some nasty responses, but if it gets their brain thinking about their kids, rather than their addiction, then I feel good. 

 

Sorry for the rant. Maybe I need to find an addiction I can force on the general public. 

[Flysmallie]

12 minutes ago, Ketchup said:

What gets me riled up is to see a vehicle pull up, mom and pops smoking like a chimney, while their 3 kids in the back seat, windows rolled up, are engulfing their lungs with that nasty stuff by NO CHOICE of their own.

That drives my wife absolutely crazy. Can't say that I blame her or you. I can't say that I don't get smoking. But I don't see why people won't just stop. And I'm not talking about a pipe or a cigar or the person that has the occasional cigarette. I'm talking about people that seem to need one constantly. It's bad, just quit. And yes it is that simple. I chewed for 30 years and this past New Years eve me and my 12 year old were outside shooting fireworks at midnight and she said why don't you just quit chewing. So I did. Haven't had one since. Still want one right now but it's not going to happen.