Terrierman Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 What Ham said about the Alberto. I finally figured it out and it's a very good knot. Not that bad to tie either after the first ten or fifteen times. Takes two hands and a mouth though, there's a lot going on there. Ham and grizwilson 2
Gavin Posted August 2, 2016 Posted August 2, 2016 Have not messed with the Alberto. 3 turn Surgeons is a 10 second knot. Fine for most freshwater fish. If bigger fish are the norm (8-10lb+) I'd spend the extra time on a better knot. drew03cmc 1
Seth Posted August 2, 2016 Posted August 2, 2016 Here is what I am currently running 7'2" heavy/fast casting with 17# Berkley Vanish fluorocarbon (3/8oz and heavier bottom baits) 7'1" medium heavy/fast casting with 15# Seaguar Red Label fluorocarbon (3/16-3/8oz bottom baits) 7' medium/fast casting with 14# trilene XT (spinnerbaits/buzzbaits/squarebills) 7' medium/moderate casting with 10-12# trilene xl (crankbaits) 6'6" medium/fast casting with 12# Trilene XL (topwater and jerkbaits) 7'2" medium/fast spinning with 15# PowerPro braid and 8-12# flurocarbon leader (finesse) For attaching baits, I use the following knots. Leaders Uni-to-uni for mono/fluorocarbon to mono/fluorocarbon and Alberto for braid to fluorocarbon Line to Lure Fluorocarbon (this knot or a uni if I am in a hurry or feeling lazy) Mono (fish-n-fool, uni or palomar) The fish-n-fool is just a uni with the line looped through the eye twice instead of once.
Mitch f Posted August 2, 2016 Posted August 2, 2016 8 hours ago, Seth said: Here is what I am currently running 7'2" heavy/fast casting with 17# Berkley Vanish fluorocarbon (3/8oz and heavier bottom baits) 7'1" medium heavy/fast casting with 15# Seaguar Red Label fluorocarbon (3/16-3/8oz bottom baits) 7' medium/fast casting with 14# trilene XT (spinnerbaits/buzzbaits/squarebills) 7' medium/moderate casting with 10-12# trilene xl (crankbaits) 6'6" medium/fast casting with 12# Trilene XL (topwater and jerkbaits) 7'2" medium/fast spinning with 15# PowerPro braid and 8-12# flurocarbon leader (finesse) For attaching baits, I use the following knots. Leaders Uni-to-uni for mono/fluorocarbon to mono/fluorocarbon and Alberto for braid to fluorocarbon Line to Lure Fluorocarbon (this knot or a uni if I am in a hurry or feeling lazy) Mono (fish-n-fool, uni or palomar) The fish-n-fool is just a uni with the line looped through the eye twice instead of once. Fish-n-fool is a new twist, I've never seen that one. I might check that one out, since all I ever use is the Uni or Palomar anyway "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
MOPanfisher Posted August 2, 2016 Posted August 2, 2016 The Fish-n-fool know is a great one, the one I almost always use when tying braid direct to a jig or lure. Took me a little while to get used to it after a lifetime of tying the palomar but now its just second nature.
Seth Posted August 2, 2016 Posted August 2, 2016 I found this chart online where somebody did some knot testing and the two knots I posted diagrams of were the winners. Knot Wars also determined that the Berkley Braid knot was slightly better overall than the Fish-N-Fool as well. I may end up just going to that Berkley braid knot for everything as it is pretty easy to tie as well.
drew03cmc Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 On 7/31/2016 at 3:28 PM, MOPanfisher said: Drew how well does the triple surgeons knot go through the guides. I am ready to try mono leaders on braid again but have had horrible luck with them slipping and coming undone. I have no issues with confidence in braid directly to a jig, just issues with abrasion against rocks etc. The braid just doesn't handle it as well. I have no issues with it at all and it is a simple tie in the dark. Andy
Daryk Campbell Sr Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 Due to replies on this site, I chose P-line and am very satisfied. I am slowly upgrading all of my equipment from Walmart basic to suggested intro/ every day gear. I use it with a Pflueger President spinning reel. rps and grizwilson 2 Money is just ink and paper, worthless until it switches hands, and worthless again until the next transaction. (me) I am the master of my unspoken words, and the slave to those that should have remained unsaid. (unknown)
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