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Folks, it's less about the docks than the shoreline development that more docks will bring.  And there is where a significant portion of adverse water quality effects come from.  Fight this tooth and nail.

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2 hours ago, Phil Lilley said:

I'm actually surprised a lot of the usual TR patrons have not rung in on this.  They must be out fishing...

I think a lot of us are just sadly aware that big money will prevail. And that common sense and integrity hardly matter anymore. That was proven in the presidential election of 2008 and again in 2012. And likely will be proven yet again in a couple of weeks.

Strength in numbers may have mattered at one time, but the only numbers that matter anymore are the ones with dollar signs in front of them.

JMO.

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There is no question that having a dock or a slip in a dock increased you property value, as does having a clear view to the lake.  I don't believe if Long/Blunt get their way that it would be an unrestricted permitting process, there would still have to be some placement control, i.e. you couldn't just place a dock anywhere.  Similar things have been tried before and usually get shot down before they pass, however in a year like this one, I wouldn't even hazard a guess where this one will end up.

 

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I tried to find the actual wording of the amendment, as I am not a very trusting person, especially where politicians are incolved.  so far all I have been able to find is Billy Longs articles and explanation.  IF it is as he described it might not be as bad as I feared, his description is that it would basically lift the current moratorium, and delay the Shoreline Management Plan update for 5 years, it would basicall return to things to the former SMP rules, doesn't sound like it would be a free for all.  however it would through out all the planning, work, public comments received so far and force a re-start from scratch, kicking the can down the road so to speak, and wasting the last 2 years or so of work.  sounds like a well thought out idea right?  again anymore I don't trust any politicians, I will.continue to.search for the actual wording, if someone better than I finds it please post it up or at least a link.

Might have found it.https://www.congress.gov/amendment/114th-congress/house-amendment/1449?q={"search"%3A["hr+5303"]}

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At the end of title I, insert the following:

     SEC. __. TABLE ROCK LAKE, ARKANSAS AND MISSOURI.

       (a) In General.--Notwithstanding any other provision of 
     law, the Secretary--
       (1) shall include a 60-day public comment period for a 
     Table Rock Lake Master Plan and Table Rock Lake Shoreline 
     Management Plan revision; and
       (2) shall not finalize a revision for the Table Rock Lake 
     Master Plan and Table Rock Lake Shoreline Management Plan 
     during the 5-year period beginning on the date of enactment 
     of this Act.
       (b) Shoreline Use Permits.--During the period described in 
     subsection (a)(2), the Secretary shall lift or suspend the 
     moratorium on the issuance of new, and modifications to 
     existing, shoreline use permits based on the existing Table 
     Rock Lake Master Plan and Table Rock Lake Shoreline 
     Management Plan.
       (c) Study.--
       (1) In general.--The Secretary shall--
       (A) carry out a study on the need to revise permit fees 
     relating to Table Rock Lake to better reflect the cost of 
     issuing those fees and achieve cost savings; and
       (B) submit to Congress a report on the results of the study 
     described in subparagraph (A).
       (2) Requirement.--The Secretary shall complete the study 
     under paragraph (1)(A) before adopting any revision to the 
     Table Rock Lake Shoreline Management Plan.

  The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to House Resolution 892, the gentleman 
from Missouri (Mr. Long) and a Member opposed each will control 5 
minutes.
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Missouri.
  Mr. LONG. Mr. Chairman, Table Rock Lake, near Branson, Missouri, is 
one of the premier destinations in the Ozarks, especially for my 
constituents in the Seventh Congressional District.
  The Army Corps of Engineers is currently undertaking a revision of 
the lake's Shoreline Management Plan and has in place a moratorium on 
dock permits to halt development around the lake.
  What this means is, if you purchased a home or land in this area with 
the hopes of putting in a dock, you can no longer do so. If you already 
have a dock and it needs to be updated, you can't even update it.
  I have met with the Corps and the lake community throughout this 
process, and the overwhelming consensus from my constituents is that 
their voices are not being heard on this issue that will have far-
reaching effects for those living on the lake and for its economy.
  My amendment would extend the public comment period to ensure that 
those directly impacted by the shoreline plan will have a say in it. My 
amendment also lifts the moratorium on dock permits and extends the 
timeframe of the final plan to ensure that the Corps has enough time to 
incorporate the community's concerns into its updated plan.
  I am proud to work with Senator Blunt and Chairman Shuster on this 
commonsense issue. I urge my colleagues to support my amendment.
  Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
  The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the 
gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Long).
  The amendment was agreed to.
  The Acting CHAIR. It is now in order to consider amendment No. 14 
printed in House Report 114-790.

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  • Root Admin
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What this means is, if you purchased a home or land in this area with the hopes of putting in a dock, you can no longer do so. If you already have a dock and it needs to be updated, you can't even update it.

@Jeremy Rasnick is this right?  Can't update an existing dock?

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  • Root Admin
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Got an answer.

You can't make modifications or add slips changing the footprint while under the moratorium.  That's reasonable.  You couldn't do any of that without permission or an amended permit without the moratorium.

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Posted
11 hours ago, Phil Lilley said:

I sent out a bulk email to all OAF members.  Last email I sent out was 9/2014.  

I received nothing either; but also receive notifications from other members or new topics via e-mail.:(

Posted

$Long and $$$Blunt, 

Rather than saying "my constituents" please say it like it really is...... what you mean is "my donors".  Anytime a law maker says "common sense" I shutter.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Roy Blunt or his son Matt Blunt caught up in the failed development just east of Branson West? The development down in the gully below the large arrowhead sign, Indian Ridge?? 

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