new spinning reel

[Champ188]

11 hours ago, vernon said:

I've played that ball and, in my opinion, it's the best ball ever made - bar none (well, the aforementioned Condor might be an exception!).  It's dang near a replica of the Pro V1 only for me it's actually a little longer and spins better around the greens.  Unbelievable feel off of woods and irons alike.

Problem is, most of the rest of the world has caught on and they're extremely hard to find right now.  They've been on backorder thru Costco for months and last I heard are still a couple of months out.  There's supposed to be a few stores in the warmer weather states that get a pallet or two in every now and then but they say they're selling them out in a matter or hours.

Guys that can get ahold of them are making a killing off em' on eBay. 

Are they intended for higher swing speeds? I've run the gamut on balls from Pro-V1's to Velocities to Srixons and I'm hitting a 55 compression Callaway ball right now that I love better than anything I've ever hit. 

[abkeenan]

6 minutes ago, Champ188 said:

Are they intended for higher swing speeds? I've run the gamut on balls from Pro-V1's to Velocities to Srixons and I'm hitting a 55 compression Callaway ball right now that I love better than anything I've ever hit. 

Yes. My buddies (90-110 MPH swing speeds) and I have been talking about these balls for months and nobody has been able to get their hands on any. But if you look at the Forbes article posted previously you will see that the spin rate off the driver is less (better and longer) than the ProV1 (Gold Standard in golf). The iron shot spin rates are the same or higher than the Pro V which should equate to better control around the greens (I am not that good and just want to HIT THE GREEN much less shape a shot). Have read quite a bit of reviews from avid golfers and these things are the real deal apparently. Good luck finding any though.

Callaway is making some great balls these days. Have a few buddies that are low handicapers that love the Project A and also the Chrome Soft.

[Champ188]

My swing speed is 88-90 these days. I was a fan of the Chrome Soft until I found these Superhot 55's. They are low spin off the driver, too, but I can stop them pretty darn quick even hitting a 4- or 5-hybrid into the green.

[shrapnel]

Superhot's in stock https://www.amazon.com/Callaway-Superhot-55-Balls-Dozen/dp/B01BF7QDQQ

[Macsimus]

 

 

[Smalls21]

36 minutes ago, Macsimus said:

 

 

There is a point to golf? who knew

[vernon]

17 hours ago, abkeenan said:

Yes. My buddies (90-110 MPH swing speeds) and I have been talking about these balls for months and nobody has been able to get their hands on any. But if you look at the Forbes article posted previously you will see that the spin rate off the driver is less (better and longer) than the ProV1 (Gold Standard in golf). The iron shot spin rates are the same or higher than the Pro V which should equate to better control around the greens (I am not that good and just want to HIT THE GREEN much less shape a shot). Have read quite a bit of reviews from avid golfers and these things are the real deal apparently. Good luck finding any though.

Callaway is making some great balls these days. Have a few buddies that are low handicapers that love the Project A and also the Chrome Soft.

Here's what I know about golf balls.

The Kirkland's are not designed specifically for higher swing speeds but certainly will work for stronger players.  Similar to the Pro V and most of the other multi layer, urethane covered balls introduced in the last few years, they are all relatively low compression and good for players of most all abilities.  Not like the old days when Titleist "tour" level balls were designated 90 or 100 compression. In fact, there ain't no industry standard when measuring compression anyway - every company does it their own way so one guys 80 might be softer than another ones 60.  

I honestly believe that you can separate balls into about three categories regardless of brand and the price and performance for each will be pretty close - except for the Pro V which is just flat overpriced because they can in my opinion.  

Like most everything else, there just ain't that many golf ball factories.  Callaway's are made in the old Spalding plant for instance. Wonder why Tiger just signed to play the Bridgestone ball?  Cause Bridgestone has made Nike's golf balls since the beginning.

The $20 and less crowd are typically one piece with a surlyn cover.  They are usually great for distance but feel hard and won't spin around the greens much at all.  For players that don't know HOW to make the ball spin around the greens it's pretty much a moot point anyway.  A bladed wedge don't much care what kind of ball you hit!

The $20 - $30 group usually consists of multi-layer construction and a way better feeling and spinning urethane cover.  The multiple layers enable these balls to perform great off the driver at a wide variety of swing speeds while the urethane cover gives them a softer feel and allows them to spin more around the greens.

The over $30 crowd is usually even more layers of construction (usually four or five although Maxfli makes a six layer ball - the U6) plus the urethane cover.

Believe it or not, most testing has proven that "feel" is actually much more closely related to SOUND.  The vast majority of tour players can't tell the difference between a Pinnacle and a Pro V if they can't hear it at impact.  And, if you think about it, it makes sense.  A hard surlyn or plastic cover will sound "clicky" or hard whereas the soft urethane of a Pro V or similar quality ball is much more muted.  Kinda like the old balatas that everybody always thought felt so soft - it was actually more sound than feel. 

If a guy chooses a golf ball that they like best from 100 yds. and in there's virtually zero chance that they'll risk losing a single yard off of the driver as a result.  These days these things are just that good.  Conversely, you COULD find a ball that's longest off the tee but worthless around the green.

Titleist has long marketed their Pro V to be a ball for all levels and, like the Kirkland, it really is.  It's pretty low compression but relies on multi layer construction and a soft urethane cover for its versatility.  Pretty much every company has a ball in the same category nowadays but they just cost a little more than the next level down.  

My personal favorite is the Bridgestone B330RX - good distance, nice feel and will spin nicely around the green.  And, they're made in the USA.  However, for casual or practice rounds a lot of times I play the Wilson Duo (compression 29!)  To me, they feel fine around the greens and pretty normal off the driver.  What's the attraction?  You can get em' for $12.99 a dozen on Amazon!  I don't feel bad losing one or two during a round at that price.  The Wilson 50 Elite is a very similar ball that's about the same price.

If you read the article about the Kirkland you already know that it's the equal of not only the Pro V, but the Bridgestone 330, the Callaway Chrome and all the other premium balls.  

The only difference is the price.  

Like the old Lady Precept now the problem is finding the dang things!

[snagged in outlet 3]

I have a few sleeves of Titleist balata balls brand new.  I love the feel of them but you lose a lot distance off the tee with em. 

[vernon]

22 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

I have a few sleeves of Titleist balata balls brand new.  I love the feel of them but you lose a lot distance off the tee with em. 

Wow.  The rubber bands inside of them babies gotta be feelin' a little fatigued by now!  For a real treat, if you still have any old persimmon woods laying around, tee one of those suckers up and take a whack.  It feels about like hitting a hedge ball with a wet towel!

I've still got a bunch in an old shag bag downstairs and every once in a while I'll take a handful up to the driving range along with an old Arnold Palmer Peerless driver.  I like to get the young hotazz high school and juco players to hit a couple with that combination - the looks on their faces is priceless!

My lab absolutely loves em'.  She chews them until the cover starts coming off and then the rubber bands explode all over the place.  It's like a big spring coming undone - once she catches up to it and bites down, the rubber bands pop loose again which freaks her out so she drops it and then it skitters all over the place while she tries to catch it again.  Cheap entertainment!

I've also got an old Palmer "The Standard" 1 iron that looks like half a butter knife on a ski pole.  I have no idea how we used to hit those things!

[BillT]

Struck me funny, spinning reels to golf balls.......I guess there's a way to screw in a small eye screw on each side of the ball then tie the fishing line to one and a short leader with a midge on the other and have Lilley place driving pads on his docks and we can practice golf and trout fishing with one swing of the club and see how the spinning reels work.  I know, its a stretch.  LOL