MDC reports halfway mark on results of deer samples being tested for CWD

[Chief Grey Bear]

1 hour ago, Jerry Rapp said:

once again appreciate the info, but I still have not heard one valid argument that would make me, a state senator, or state representative vote for funding to study CWD. 

And you are not going to find one. 

You don't want too. 

[MOPanfisher]

7 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

I'm looking for answers !   

BOOM!  And now FW you have become a biologist!  Looking for answers is exactly what the biologists, collges, researchers etc. Are doing too.  Sort of like someone telling you that there motor isn't running right, you can't diagnose it until you know a little about it, what is the motor, what is it doing wrong, you have to do a little research to figure it out.  Unfortunately with live critters and microscopic particles as the problem it isn't possible to simply look into them, or disassemble them, and fix he bad parts.    The answers you are looking for are not there yet, it takes years of research sometimes before any sort of answer can be formed, it is even possible that the answers we all want may never be known in our lifetime.  But time, research etc. can change many things, diseases that used to be fatal or at least very debilitating, can now be vaccinated against or in some cases cured.  Others are still not curable or preventable.

[Chief Grey Bear]

26 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

I'm looking for answers !   

I highly doubt it. 

If you would spend as much time on the internet researching and learning as you do throwing out random factless comments, you wouldn't be making the most asinine, incoherent post that you do. 

[MOPanfisher]

http://huntingworksformo.com/economic-data/

HUNTING IS PART OF MISSOURI’S CULTURE

576,000 people hunt in Missouri each year.

10 million days are spent hunting in Missouri.

HUNTING SUPPORTS MISSOURI’S ECONOMY

Hunters support over 18,000 jobs in Missouri.

Hunting generates $541 million in salaries and wages.

Yearly spending by hunters in Missouri is $985 million.

Missouri hunters spend an estimated $1,600 per year on trip- related expenses and gear.

HUNTING IS A KEY SOURCE OF TAX REVENUE

Hunters annually generate $108 million in taxes for the state of Missouri.

Hunters generate $126 million in federal taxes annually.

MISSOURI HUNTING: THE BOTTOM LINE

The total ripple effect from hunting in Missouri is $1.6 BILLION.

[Jerry Rapp]

5 minutes ago, MOPanfisher said:

http://huntingworksformo.com/economic-data/

HUNTING IS PART OF MISSOURI’S CULTURE

576,000 people hunt in Missouri each year.

10 million days are spent hunting in Missouri.

HUNTING SUPPORTS MISSOURI’S ECONOMY

Hunters support over 18,000 jobs in Missouri.

Hunting generates $541 million in salaries and wages.

Yearly spending by hunters in Missouri is $985 million.

Missouri hunters spend an estimated $1,600 per year on trip- related expenses and gear.

HUNTING IS A KEY SOURCE OF TAX REVENUE

Hunters annually generate $108 million in taxes for the state of Missouri.

Hunters generate $126 million in federal taxes annually.

MISSOURI HUNTING: THE BOTTOM LINE

The total ripple effect from hunting in Missouri is $1.6 BILLION.

John's post said $1 billion from deer hunting alone.  Not disputing your numbers, but lets keep the apples and oranges separated.

[fishinwrench]

6 minutes ago, Chief Grey Bear said:

I highly doubt it. 

If you would spend as much time on the internet researching and learning as you do throwing out random factless comments, you wouldn't be making some most asinine, incoherent post that you do. 

You have this pattern of pretending to fully understand things that you don't.  And for some reason you attempt to hide your ignorance by pretending to fully understand, but your just so aloof that it    "just isn't worth your time to explain to morons".     

Your easy to read, dude.   STFU 

My comments, whether factual or factless, shouldn't effect you one iota.

[MOPanfisher]

Jerry, sorry if you thought I was attempting to validate anyone's numbers.  I merely posted some information about economic impacts of hunting and assumed you could digest it for what it contained.

[BilletHead]

    Even if you don't understand it you all should be concerned. Not that deer hunting drives like it used to I am concerned with this outcome for others. Monetary of not it is a concern. Let me put it this way if it was something that affected those green bass in LOZ and had a trickle done effect on the economy this would be a concern to some. Now to others it maybe like if all the golf courses vanished or there became a shortage of golf balls. This may freak out some in that sport. We are all in this together if we hunt, fish or golf.

  United we stand divided we fall.

[SpoonDog]

1 hour ago, Jerry Rapp said:

I am not at all against deer hunting, or any kind of hunting.  I realize game populations are better than ever in my 60 year life. 

 

1 hour ago, Jerry Rapp said:

once again appreciate the info, but I still have not heard one valid argument that would make me, a state senator, or state representative vote for funding to study CWD. 

 

Luckily it's not up to state legislators, and I'm not sure how your two positions dovetail.  CWD reduces the game populations you admit are better now than at any point in your sixty years.  MO's deer population is 1.5 million, reducing it by 80% leaves what?  300,000 animals?  800,000 residents bought firearms permits in 2015.  Just residents.  Just firearm deer permits.  You tell me how many deer each of those 800,000 individuals gets to shoot when there's 300,000 deer in the state. 

Johnsfolly makes a good point with regard to the economics, but there's more than that.  As much traction as "wholesome, traditional, hunting and fishing and outdoor activities" are in this state, going back to the days when they're wasn't enough game around for folks to hunt should be alarming. 

Implicit in your argument, Jerry, is the idea that your kids or grandkids shouldn't have it as good as you do. 

Should they be afforded the opportunity to hunt abundant, healthy game?  Or not?

[Chief Grey Bear]

You're  right I don't fully understand everything. Never once claimed that I did. But I do know enough to at least hold an intelligent conversation.

Some people are willing and even eager to learn. You are neither.