CWD and the MDC

[ollie]

Oneshot, it's no big deal.  I have never hired a guide to fish and probably never will as well.  I'm just too dumb ,stubborn, or whatever  to spend any money like that on an experience in my own state!  I'm still not sure I can justify a 40,000 dollar hunt for a big buck anywhere in the USA.  

[Haris122]

As far as here in MO, even if diagnosed correctly, it would probably take a good 10 or more years to even register cases of it. And then it would still be tough to know if it was deer that did it. Like I said, it transferred from cows to humans, I dont doubt it will transfer from deer to humans. 

[tjm]

On 1/25/2018 at 4:59 PM, fishinwrench said:

If it's truly a threat then it sounds like the only thing that can be done about it is to kill off a huge percentage of the deer, which I'm totally in favor of.   What are they waiting for?

Apparently none of this is as important to them as selling those tags.

Quite a lot of resistance from hunters and "farmers"  to containing/controlling this disease, many simply refuse to see it as anything but the government messing around with the deer "farmers"  "livestock" and costing the "farmers" money. Destroying deer to benefit the the public just ain't popular.

Add in that much of what is believed to be true about CWD is actually very hard to prove and that the deer have to be dead to be tested and chances are it will be beyond "too little too late" when the public wakes up. May already be past any real help.

[oneshot]

Ok I just got to thinking wouldn't anyone raising Deer, Elk or Sheep want to do everything to keep any disease out of their animals?

Over the years I've raised many types of animals and couple times had very Bad  disease get in them. No I wasn't happy but there was nothing I could do about it.

CWD has been around many years before it was ever heard of.

oneshot

[MOPanfisher]

It has been documented in captive deer herds for something like 30 years or more.  Nobody who raises deer would want to have their herd become infected with anything, especially CWD.  Their herd would not only be destroyed the would never be able to raise deer there again.

[176champion]

I don't have to go far to hunt deer...they come right up to my front deck...lol

[tjm]

It is not that they don't want the captive cervids to become infected, the infection started with captive cervids after all, it is that they don't want to admit that the disease exists or that if it does exist that it can harm humans.

When I saw a herd of goats get scrapie, that guy and the one next to him shipped all their goats the same week, with no notification to any authorities.  If a deer guy gets a dead animal and buries or cremates it before testing there is no way to prove the animal died, is there?

1 hour ago, oneshot said:

Ok I just got to thinking wouldn't anyone raising Deer, Elk or Sheep want to do everything to keep any disease out of their animals?

Pretty much accepted by some that study it that CWD jumped from sheep to deer in Colorado State University study pens. Captive deer penned with sheep and later some of them released back to the wilds. Late 1950-60s was also the first time scrapie was reported in North American sheep, coincidentally in NE Co.

[fishinwrench]

2 hours ago, tjm said:

Pretty much accepted by some that study it that CWD jumped from sheep to deer in Colorado State University study pens. Captive deer penned with sheep and later some of them released back to the wilds. Late 1950-60s was also the first time scrapie was reported in North American sheep, coincidentally in NE Co.

Shoulda guessed that a group of wise-assed biologists started it all.