Ketchup Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 Why not tack weld it there? Quick and simple VS having to drill holes, install brackets, rivets.. Seems like alot of extra work. Wrench said rivets but im going against him for what your wanting. I would want that thing ridgid. Welding it from brace to brace will keep it from pushing out. Those rivets wont give you that. TinBoats BassClub. An aluminum only bass club. If interested in info send me a PM.
MoCarp Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 Be sure not overload the boat what is it CG rating? looks like that boat would be in the 350-250# range 2-possably 3 person at best any mods come of your load rating MONKEYS? what monkeys?
fishinwrench Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Ketchup said: Why not tack weld it there? Quick and simple VS having to drill holes, install brackets, rivets.. Seems like alot of extra work. Wrench said rivets but im going against him for what your wanting. I would want that thing ridgid. Welding it from brace to brace will keep it from pushing out. Those rivets wont give you that. Here's the thing though.....that boat (the WHOLE BOAT) is going to twist and flex. Welds are too rigid and will not hold for very long on a project like this, I promise. They'll crack and let go. Rivets allow things to flex and twist, while still holding everything firmly in place. Just don't forget to use aluminum backing washers on every rivet, as long as you can get to the back side to slip one on. If you're riveting to a spot like the stringer braces where you can't get a backing washer on, then cut up a bicycle inner-tube and use pieces of it between your pieces of riveted aluminum. Everything can flex and move so it stays put, and vibration is dampened by the rubber gaskets, so the rivet never wallows out. That sucker will take repeated poundings, year after year, and never crack or come undone. Honestly, I've built up a bunch of modified Jon boat rigs and I gave up on welds a long time ago. A true PRO aluminum welder I'm sure could design a nice deck frame that would last.....but I only know one of those guys and he gets 200.00/hr. MoCarp 1
BilletHead Posted March 28, 2018 Posted March 28, 2018 9 hours ago, Ketchup said: Why not tack weld it there? Quick and simple VS having to drill holes, install brackets, rivets.. Seems like alot of extra work. Wrench said rivets but im going against him for what your wanting. I would want that thing ridgid. Welding it from brace to brace will keep it from pushing out. Those rivets wont give you that. Another thing Ketchup you may of missed in Wilys earlier posts. He is wanting easy removable deck. This is a multi use rig and he will be remove the deck during waterfowl season. I can see the rivet deal working well. Just drill out rivets and it is out until it is needed again. Liking watching this come together. I did it once on a 1648. BilletHead "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
wily Posted March 29, 2018 Author Posted March 29, 2018 Not worried about the weight...boat is only 1436 but it's an alweld. It is well built...rating is 570. and this is a small deck...additional 40 lbs at most. Muffler shop is going to help design and weld some mounting brackets to ladder Saturday...then planning to rivet to the stringer braces...and the existing front deck. I've got a line on some scrap tread plate...hoping to pick it up next tuesday while I'm off work. Another stupid question...but how should I attach the tread plate to the ladder? Thanks
fishinwrench Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 4 hours ago, wily said: Another stupid question...but how should I attach the tread plate to the ladder? I don't like the tread-plate idea, but if you must...... 3/16" Rivets with rubber gaskets !
wily Posted March 29, 2018 Author Posted March 29, 2018 What would you use instead of tread plate? I'm pretty sure I could get something else at same place...I just figured tread plate was best option...thanks
Ketchup Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 Walking on that would suck i think due to not being an even area with the ridges. 1/2" CDX plywood sealed, then carpeted would be good. Easy to remove a few screws to take the deck off. TinBoats BassClub. An aluminum only bass club. If interested in info send me a PM.
fishinwrench Posted March 29, 2018 Posted March 29, 2018 Yep, 1/2" plywood, and something to dampen the noise. Carpet or rubbery stuff.
wily Posted March 30, 2018 Author Posted March 30, 2018 Reminds me of a song...well I ain't first class but I ain't white trash... Put an old bed frame to good use...looks pretty good to me...just got to figure out the top fishinwrench, snagged in outlet 3, grizwilson and 1 other 3 1
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