Off Topic Christmas Spending

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1 hour ago, Champ188 said:

 Bo, unless you bought a new boat you didn’t pay one dime towards marketing costs for any boat company. And the way you are constantly poor mouthing, I doubt you ever bought a new one. 

i used to buy one about every 3 years when i fished tournaments all the time.  and, i paid cash for everyone of them out of my own pocket.  my one and only sponsor was by the name of Bo James and still is.  i've always bought Basscat boats, and have never had an issue with one.  however, i can not say that about mercury motors and if i ever buy another new one, it will not be a mercury because they have not stood behind their very own mistakes.  opti pops have just been a poor design engine.  pretty bad when they still have never figured out how to get # 5 cylinder wall to expand to normal with the other 5.

 

so yes, i will keep bitching about all the freebies that we the cash paying customers have to pay for in the cost of a new boat and motor.

 

bo

[Champ188]

So far, it’s still a free country and you have every right to female doggy all you want. So knock yourself out. 

Incidentally, the last three boats I bought were not discounted one thin dime so you and I are in the same boat, so to speak. 

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1 hour ago, Champ188 said:

So far, it’s still a free country and you have every right to female doggy all you want. So knock yourself out. 

Incidentally, the last three boats I bought were not discounted one thin dime so you and I are in the same boat, so to speak. 

well, whoopty doo!

 

bo

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13 hours ago, merc1997 said:

opti pops have just been a poor design engine.  pretty bad when they still have never figured out how to get # 5 cylinder wall to expand to normal with the other 5.

Cylinder expansion isn't the problem.  #5 and #6 are going to run cooler on any vertical powerhead by law of physics (heat rises).   More often than not the problem is caused by the various components bolted to the powerhead, not the powerhead itself.  Science got the best of them at Mercury Marine R&D.    What looks good on paper and theory just doesn't always fare well in the real world.  

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2 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

Cylinder expansion isn't the problem.  #5 and #6 are going to run cooler on any vertical powerhead by law of physics (heat rises).   More often than not the problem is caused by the various components bolted to the powerhead, not the powerhead itself.  Science got the best of them at Mercury Marine R&D.    What looks good on paper and theory just doesn't always fare well in the real world.  

well according to mercury, that is why you have to let the engine warm up to temp before getting above 3000 rpm or you have no warranty.  you are sure right, a very poor design.  the cylinder expansion excuse never made sense to me.  you are so right about anything bolted to the block and how it can and will pull the block out of square.  that is why there are torque specs, but there are places on any block that a mounted accessories can pull the block out of square.

 

bo

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34 minutes ago, merc1997 said:

you are so right about anything bolted to the block and how it can and will pull the block out of square.

Woah wait.....I never heard THAT theory.  That's hogwash. 😂 Lost foam casting has no flex whatsoever.  It's rigid right up to the point where it breaks.  

I was referring to the operation of things bolted to the powerhead, such as fuel, ignition, and charging system components.    

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I just don’t understand the difference in boats to cars.  If I had to drive a boat in place of my truck everyday I’d have to get two of them because one would always be out of service. 

I just don’t get it.  I had Honda 3 wheelers that were literally indestructible back in the  80’s.  Those things started right up after being upside down in a pond. 

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9 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

I just don’t understand the difference in boats to cars.  If I had to drive a boat in place of my truck everyday I’d have to get two of them because one would always be out of service. 

I just don’t get it.  I had Honda 3 wheelers that were literally indestructible back in the  80’s.  Those things started right up after being upside down in a pond. 

I do not have any difficulty imagining you putting a Honda 3 wheeler upside down in a pond in the '80's.

 

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2 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

I just don’t understand the difference in boats to cars.  If I had to drive a boat in place of my truck everyday I’d have to get two of them because one would always be out of service. 

I just don’t get it.  I had Honda 3 wheelers that were literally indestructible back in the  80’s.  Those things started right up after being upside down in a pond. 

This should be a thread of its own.  

Things to consider:

RPM range and consistency of load on the engine.  Your truck has likely never seen 6000 rpm.  Neither do chainsaws or weedeaters, or your Honda ATV.

Frequency of use.  I have customers that only use their boat 3-4 times per year.  I also have customers (dock builders and such) that use their boats every single day....and beat the living crap out of them.   Guess which ones write me checks most frequently? 

Very VERY seldom does a powerhead or gearcase fail because of poor manufacturing.  Something that is bolted onto it, or fed into it, is always the cause.