oneshot 1 Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 52 minutes ago, Terrierman said: All those dead VC, Taliban, Daesh and Iraqis might have a little different take on whether AR/M16/M4 is a weapon of war or not. How many were killed with Semi Automatics? And actually the best was killed by M40. I would say none were killed with an AR15. AR is a Colt version of a Civilian Rifle. oneshot
BilletHead Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Terrierman said: All those dead VC, Taliban, Daesh and Iraqis might have a little different take on whether AR/M16/M4 is a weapon of war or not. True but they don't have to be. I have taken deer, coyote, and many targets with mine. It has never been to war. There have been many, many, weapons of war. From the knapped stone blade, stone ax head, bow and arrow, then weapons of the metal age. On and on to here and now but none of these have to be a weapon of war. Your everyday pocket knife could be a weapon of war if you are inclined to use it that way. They are a tool a simple tool if used in the appropriate way. There are people that do not need them for any reason I agree but there are also the ones who should not drive too. I am not picking on you Rick my friend. You just gave me a platform to spout off . Terrierman 1 "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
Terrierman Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, BilletHead said: True but they don't have to be. I have taken deer, coyote, and many targets with mine. It has never been to war. There have been many, many, weapons of war. From the knapped stone blade, stone ax head, bow and arrow, then weapons of the metal age. On and on to here and now but none of these have to be a weapon of war. Your everyday pocket knife could be a weapon of war if you are inclined to use it that way. They are a tool a simple tool if used in the appropriate way. There are people that do not need them for any reason I agree but there are also the ones who should not drive too. I am not picking on you Rick my friend. You just gave me a platform to spout off . There's a metric ton of them in circulation. The guys that give me an upset stomach are the ones that - oh never mind, you know already. MOPanfisher and BilletHead 2
BilletHead Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Terrierman said: There's a metric ton of them in circulation. The guys that give me an upset stomach are the ones that - oh never mind, you know already. Yep I agree fully Heck our own government "let" almost two thousand "walk" out of the united states straight to the Mexican drug cartel. Go figure. MOPanfisher 1 "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
MOPanfisher Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 2 hours ago, oneshot 1 said: How many were killed with Semi Automatics? And actually the best was killed by M40. I would say none were killed with an AR15. AR is a Colt version of a Civilian Rifle. oneshot As I said semi automatics were not issued, they were select fire weapons. You are paritually correct in that none were killed by an "AR", however every version of the M16 and M4 is nothing more than modified AR platform. Modified to be shorter, different internals to allow select fire etc, shoot cleaner, shoot longer bullets etc.. Swap out those internals and they are the same basic thing available right now at Bass Pro, different brand name etc, but essentially the same none th less. My father would have laughed at the M16 and AR's he spent too much time putting his life on the line with a Springfield or a Garand. However I suspect he would have enjoyed shooting and AR. I fully agree about people who want ro make a point by wearing a AR into a store or where ever, simply stupid, but that is my philosophy on it and others mileage will most certainly vary. BilletHead 1
Terrierman Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 2 hours ago, oneshot 1 said: How many were killed with Semi Automatics? And actually the best was killed by M40. I would say none were killed with an AR15. AR is a Colt version of a Civilian Rifle. oneshot If you want to get pedantic about the difference between killing power of an AR and the others: Let's all have a moment of silence in honor of those brave schoolchildren, concert goers, movie theatre patrons, bar and restaurant gatherers and office workers who've laid down their lives in defense of our 2nd amendment rights. They're plenty dead and by a semi-auto. Need I say more?
Mitch f Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Terrierman said: If you want to get pedantic about the difference between killing power of an AR and the others: Let's all have a moment of silence in honor of those brave schoolchildren, concert goers, movie theatre patrons, bar and restaurant gatherers and office workers who've laid down their lives in defense of our 2nd amendment rights. They're plenty dead and by a semi-auto. Need I say more? I personally think no amount of laws will stop or even reduce the amount of mass shootings. "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Terrierman Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mitch f said: I personally think no amount of laws will stop or even reduce the amount of mass shootings. Probably not. It's full on war on civilization in certain quarters. Mitch f 1
oneshot Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, Terrierman said: If you want to get pedantic about the difference between killing power of an AR and the others: Let's all have a moment of silence in honor of those brave schoolchildren, concert goers, movie theatre patrons, bar and restaurant gatherers and office workers who've laid down their lives in defense of our 2nd amendment rights. They're plenty dead and by a semi-auto. Need I say more? Would have been much better with a 12Ga. Shotgun but some just want to give a Legal Tool a name. Now let’s get back to the Coronavirus. A guy with no symptoms but showed positive decided to go shopping. Now he is in bad shape and because he was stupid now a bunch are bunch are setting at home couple weeks. oneshot
oneshot Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 The thing with the older Firearms not only weight but the wood . Think about the fact at the time where we was fighting. Chainsaws most don’t remember the older Chainsaws with metal, heavier but sounded more solid running. Same with Firearms. Seems the Media is wanting to put their own spin on what people are saying what might fight this Coronavirus. oneshot
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