MOPanfisher Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 34 minutes ago, Mitch f said: I’m just trying to imagine if they actually banned all assault rifles. I think technology has gotten to the point where there would be underground production facilities coming out of the woodwork. Anybody with a decent cnc machine can produce an AR lower off of specs already available, quality varies widely but thay why you can buy them from 25 to 250 for just a lower. There are now so many in use and in citizens hands banning would be a joke and cause a lot of enforcement issues. Won't happen in the US, lots of folks would like to but it's simply impractical on a monument scale and currently an unwinnable battle in SCOTUS. And as I said earlier nearly every military issued rigle had been extremely popular with the public and basically every upgrade since the first bang has made firearms more useable and deader in one way or another it's the nature of rhe beast. I don't need AR's but I certainly enjoy mine and would happily have another in a slightly different form. And mine has an alibi for when Epstein didn't commit suicide so I know it wasn't involved there in him not hanging himself!
jdmidwest Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, MOPanfisher said: I don't need AR's but I certainly enjoy mine and would happily have another in a slightly different form. What are you after? I am thinking about building a 350 Legend with the Bear Creek Arsenal side slide upper for next deer season. Grandkid is going to need a soft shooter and the ballistics and downrange impact look better that the 300 blk outs I have been building. I really love my 6.5 Grendel 18" build. I really hoped I would get a layoff in this mess to play with the shooters. Ended up working more. "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
fishinwrench Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 It is my understanding that a true assault rifle is built to handle extreme heat, and is built with loose tolerances to keep on chugging them out in extreme dust, cold, mud, ect. Therefore not at all among the most accurate flat trajectory rifles. Hardly even worthy of a decent scope. In other words a REAL assault rifle is not what you wanna be shooting at coyotes with, and isn't going to be much fun to shoot at the range. It's a saveyerass killing tool. My neighbor is an AR15 buff....and he is fighting glitches with them all the time. Definitely NOT what you want when you're in a real gunfight.
MOPanfisher Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 The basic definition of an asaut rifle is an intermediate size cartridge and has select fire capability. Meaning it can be fired semi or full auto. In reality there is not a solid and hard legal definition of an Assault Rifle, which is part of what allows lawmakers and others to go make up it upwith things like color, pistol grips, quick change magazines and other semantics. ARs are often like an old beater car, you can buy or build one that will smoke tires and compete at about any level, or you can have one that you build yourself as a "gunsmith". Then like building your racer you decide upon a different whatever, which changes something else, which works well but then causes something else to be off. The actual assembly of an AR from a purchased kit can literally be done by anyone with a slight mechanical ability and the desire to do so. Tinkering with one is something that many just can't resist. You can buy a fully assembled one guaranteed to roll or built your own from a kit. ARS are, if done correctly, very reliable if, if ammo is correctly matched AND the system lubed. ARs don't like to run dry, even many regular military folks carry lube dry ones jam, oily greasy ones are messy but will keep running. I did not assbe mine, I bought it fully assbled but more as a Target Style rifle, it will happily keep my reloads with there with any bolt action I own. Many ARs are used for predator hunting, acuracy more than sufficient, quick secind or 3rd shots when multiple critters appear at once, my biggest irritation with them is they simply are not ergonomic in my eyes, partly because I spent my formative years wasted as a woods bum carrying around a bolt action rifle and just am not used to the AR style for quick reactions etc. I haver heard the saying that ARs are like barbie dolls for men, you can buy them and play with them as they are or buy all the accouterments and spend your time changing her up.
MOPanfisher Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 7 hours ago, jdmidwest said: What are you after? I am thinking about building a 350 Legend with the Bear Creek Arsenal side slide upper for next deer season. Grandkid is going to need a soft shooter and the ballistics and downrange impact look better that the 300 blk outs I have been building. I really love my 6.5 Grendel 18" build. I really hoped I would get a layoff in this mess to play with the shooters. Ended up working more. There in lies the question, the bigger part of me wants a basic simple M4-forgery carbine, beater in .5.56. But then a part of me want something beside vanilla ice cream. 6x45, 7.62x39, .30 AR, .350 Legend and the list is simply too much to choose from. So when the prices drop and supply goes I simply freeze lie a deer in the headlights and don't choose another one, or maybe I need to step up to an AR 10?m and we'll all I need is more my and a bether rifle range and more time to tinker. My current one is a Remington R15 with floated handguard and it is a shooter for sure.
jdmidwest Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 AR10 platform is a heavy rifle, not something to pack around in woods. The Grendel gives Creedmore type performance in the lighter 15 frame. Have not really looked, but have not heard prices rising much. Bear Creek Arsenal and Palmetto State are still running ads with good prices, just longer ship times. "Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." — Hunter S. Thompson
Terrierman Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 2 hours ago, MOPanfisher said: The basic definition of an asaut rifle is an intermediate size cartridge and has select fire capability. Meaning it can be fired semi or full auto. In reality there is not a solid and hard legal definition of an Assault Rifle, which is part of what allows lawmakers and others to go make up it upwith things like color, pistol grips, quick change magazines and other semantics. ARs are often like an old beater car, you can buy or build one that will smoke tires and compete at about any level, or you can have one that you build yourself as a "gunsmith". Then like building your racer you decide upon a different whatever, which changes something else, which works well but then causes something else to be off. The actual assembly of an AR from a purchased kit can literally be done by anyone with a slight mechanical ability and the desire to do so. Tinkering with one is something that many just can't resist. You can buy a fully assembled one guaranteed to roll or built your own from a kit. ARS are, if done correctly, very reliable if, if ammo is correctly matched AND the system lubed. ARs don't like to run dry, even many regular military folks carry lube dry ones jam, oily greasy ones are messy but will keep running. I did not assbe mine, I bought it fully assbled but more as a Target Style rifle, it will happily keep my reloads with there with any bolt action I own. Many ARs are used for predator hunting, acuracy more than sufficient, quick secind or 3rd shots when multiple critters appear at once, my biggest irritation with them is they simply are not ergonomic in my eyes, partly because I spent my formative years wasted as a woods bum carrying around a bolt action rifle and just am not used to the AR style for quick reactions etc. I haver heard the saying that ARs are like barbie dolls for men, you can buy them and play with them as they are or buy all the accouterments and spend your time changing her up. 😎 True. Most guns in the hands of civilians these days are just toys.
Terrierman Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 So who's looking forward to going back to work? snagged in outlet 3 1
MOPanfisher Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 Oh yeah the AR 10 is whole different creature with many fewer choices, but still nags at my consciousness. Went with a state hog hunter NE even a few years ago to try and kill a big boar that was try shy, he was packing a 16 inch AR 10 in .308, he sat down abkut 10 feet away, just a bit behind me on right side. Told him if he fires that thighs th hog had better be on topen of me and winning. PSA still has the prices but yeah bot the availability right now. I go back k and forth between wanting to be able to something based on the .223/5.56 case because I have quite a few, to want g something different, 6.5 and 6.8 are good options but not set on anything. don't want a blackout or anything geared toward a suppressed rifle. But 7.62x29 is pretry available for components and I reload everything, and not something readily mistaken for a .223/5.56 case while being inattentive. Part of me wants the variety and part want the simplistic approach. I have killed a couple deer with my AR and it did thwm quite well, but I don't deer hunt much and have better options for that if I wanted to, probably will thin my herd of some of if the heavier rulers once should is replaced, not that I have any true thumpers anymore. Last oe of those I fired was a lever .45-70 that I was uildi g loads for a buddy, man that gun was sweet and could be downloaded easily as well, but he wouldn't part with it. Older Marlin 1895 cowboy octagon barrel!
MOPanfisher Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Terrierman said: So who's looking forward to going back to work? Definitely me, I hate telwworking, and being forces to due to immuno-suppression and injury is driving mreakig nus and it is a short trip. The one thug I have learned is that sholud I make it to retirement I believe I can handle that!
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