vernon Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, magicwormman said: You're safe Vernon! Only the good die young! You and I might outlast Moses! I like the way you think! Although I've always related a little more closely with Noah what with his love of big boats and all....... 👍 magicwormman, Browning Guy and Champ188 2 1 "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." George Carlin "The only money ever wasted is money never spent." Me.
mixermarkb Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 I don't have a problem fishing high water in the lakes. Flood control is what they are there for, and I also don't have a problem with them making as much hydropower as possible. My problems are first, the flows on Taney. There seems to me no reason to not pull water through the chain early enough to avoid flooding downtown Branson. Get that water into Bull if that's where it's gonna go, early enough where it's not a panic release. The second, and related problem is, those who operate the COE leases that were negotiated based on the old style of flood control having big winter drawdowns and somewhat "normal" summer season lake levels, lose a whole lot of money when their lake is in flood pool all summer and folks stay away. There needs to be a mechanism built into that COE lease to help those businesses when the lake is flooded. I suspect that the additional hydropower $$ would be more than enough to take care of giving the small businesses a break on their leases in flood years. In other words, fill those suckers up if that's the new normal, but be transparent about it, and take care of the people who have property damaged and business damaged by the results of no winter drawdown and floods every other year. magicwormman, Browning Guy and Champ188 3
Browning Guy Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 It would be interesting to see a correlation chart comprising of the lake level winter draw down vs spring rains high water levels and the after effects over the past 45 yrs (dang did I just say 45 yrs?). Grown up down here and have seen it at 931' and 889'. Probably a happy medium in there somewhere. Just now, vernon said: Throw in no tournaments for a month or so and this could be one of the best spawns in a long, long time if it just doesn't turn into some sort of epic event. Now if I can just stay alive long enough to benefit from the whole deal...... Vernon....ur not that old r u? On a bright spot KU is the 2020 National Champions. Finishing #1 in the polls and all. Missing March madness! magicwormman 1
skeeter Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 32 minutes ago, Champ188 said: You're right, Skeeter. But in the grand scheme of things, I'd rather fish high water than see farmers lose crops to floods. And challenging as fishing may be temporarily, these high water years are really helping recruitment with all of our bass species throughout the White River chain of lakes. Absolutely ! I like the high water for the cover it affords for Fry survival and the opportunity to throw the Wacky Worm into the bushes. Off-color water doesn't hurt either...within limits, and the higher water allows use of bottom-contacting baits without the interference of the nasty Rock Snot Slime getting all over them... If it lasts long enough, even topwater will benefit from it. As usual, it just takes a little time for the Bass to adjust to the higher water levels. magicwormman 1
Browning Guy Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, magicwormman said: You're safe Vernon! Only the good die young! You and I might outlast Moses! What are you doing on here? Don't you have a ditch to dig Spoony? magicwormman 1
vernon Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 1 minute ago, BrowningCollector.com said: It would be interesting to see a correlation chart comprising of the lake level winter draw down vs spring rains high water levels and the after effects over the past 45 yrs (dang did I just say 45 yrs?). Grown up down here and have seen it at 931' and 889'. Probably a happy medium in there somewhere. Vernon....ur not that old r u? On a bright spot KU is the 2020 National Champions. Finishing #1 in the polls and all. Missing March madness! Well. I guess everything is a matter of perspective but I'll be 67 in eight lousy days! Remember when I told you that when I was at KU that Allen Fieldhouse still had a dirt floor?🤦♂️ And YES we are without question 2020 National Champions and I don't care what any of the loser, pretender, wannabes around here have to say about it. And don't bore us with all the "Cheater" comments all you clean living but on the double secret probation haters!!!! Browning Guy, magicwormman and Champ188 1 1 1 "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." George Carlin "The only money ever wasted is money never spent." Me.
Browning Guy Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Mid-James is completely blown out and the big stuff is floating down now and more coming down by the hour. Muddy is an understatement. Another 1-1.75" of rain tonight n tomorrow. Seen a couple neighbors pushing logs off their land. Be careful running if you're brave enough to fish around here. magicwormman 1
Browning Guy Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, vernon said: Well. I guess everything is a matter of perspective but I'll be 67 in eight lousy days! Remember when I told you that when I was at KU that Allen Fieldhouse still had a dirt floor?🤦♂️ And YES we are without question 2020 National Champions and I don't care what any of the loser, pretender, wannabes around here have to say about it. And don't bore us with all the "Cheater" comments all you clean living but on the double secret probation haters!!!! Amen. Rock Chalk my friend. KU #1 2020. It never gets old.....winning and all. magicwormman and vernon 2
fshndoug Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Too much asphalt on the ground.Let's build another strip mall . mixermarkb and vernon 2
Devan S. Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 38 minutes ago, mixermarkb said: I don't have a problem fishing high water in the lakes. Flood control is what they are there for, and I also don't have a problem with them making as much hydropower as possible. My problems are first, the flows on Taney. There seems to me no reason to not pull water through the chain early enough to avoid flooding downtown Branson. Get that water into Bull if that's where it's gonna go, early enough where it's not a panic release. The second, and related problem is, those who operate the COE leases that were negotiated based on the old style of flood control having big winter drawdowns and somewhat "normal" summer season lake levels, lose a whole lot of money when their lake is in flood pool all summer and folks stay away. There needs to be a mechanism built into that COE lease to help those businesses when the lake is flooded. I suspect that the additional hydropower $$ would be more than enough to take care of giving the small businesses a break on their leases in flood years. In other words, fill those suckers up if that's the new normal, but be transparent about it, and take care of the people who have property damaged and business damaged by the results of no winter drawdown and floods every other year. Except most users of Beaver and Bull Shoals would argue that TRL is the golden child and protected at all costs meaning 2 ft. rise triggers full generation and 5ft gets you some level of flood gates. Its already metered out earlier than the other lakes. I bet the people at Taney sure prefer the 20k CFS they are getting now compared to the peak inflow last week in the neighborhood of 60+k CFS. If you want to champion a good cause then we should be taking that money from generating and investing in infrastructure so that the lake is still widely accessible at the full rang of levels. You go too low or too high and you suddenly start effecting a lot of boat ramps and parking that severely limits access. magicwormman 1
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