Defunding our police..

[Terrierman]

Who here wishes they were black so their life would have been better?  I'm honest enough to say no thank you.

[SpoonDog]

 

9 hours ago, DADAKOTA said:

  I did the work through high school and college.  Created my own summer jobs (painter, re-coating asphalt) or found good summer jobs including a summer in the oil fields of Oklahoma as a roustabout.

I don't know a ton about the field, and I don't want to tell you how to feel about your own experience.  But how many women and minorities were you working with as a roustabout in Oklahoma in the 70s and 80s? Maybe they just had the same experience you did.

 

[SpoonDog]

9 hours ago, tjm said:

It is a declaration of such and unfair to all, but most unfair to the individual that can compete but gets picked up as a token.  I've worked several construction jobs years ago that had useless laborers on the pay roll who couldn't pick up and carry average loads or push a wheelbarrow of concrete nor carry a ladder and each case when I asked to have them removed from my gang was told that they had to stay because they made up the quota for females.   For the females that could do the work, I have known some, the female quota was filled and there was no job.

Affirmative action means an employer can't discriminate against a qualified candidate because of their race or sex.  It does not mean an employer is legally required to hire unqualified candidates.  An employer can hire however many women he wants, he didn't exceed the quota because he didn't want to.  He wanted to do the bare minimum.  He didn't want to give a man's job to a woman.

That's the reason affirmative action exists.

[SpoonDog]

9 hours ago, tjm said:

Do you live in Berkeley? And since neither of these places is important to me or to the folks that live in Chicago what is the difference? It seems that wealthy folks live in a better neighborhood than poor folks? or that better neighborhoods require fewer policemen? 

Where you or I live doesn't matter a lick.  We both live in a society which recognizes citizens of Ellisville and citizens of Berkeley as citizens, full stop, entitled to the same rights and privileges as any other citizen in any other community.  Doesn't matter where they're from.  Doesn't matter how much they make. 

If it isn't important what happens in places like Berkeley, it isn't important that our society live up to its stated values.

 

 

[DADAKOTA]

The Company had 6 permanent roustabaouts 1 of which was African-American.  I spent a lot of time working with Odell and learned a lot from him.  He was always at work early and typically the last to leave.  He was a great guy and a good person.  I was 1 of 3 summer hands.  All were petroleum engineering students at UMR.  

[oneshot]

My wife was hired by a company in Springfield. The Boss told her to get her stuff and leave because he wasn’t going to have a woman working under him.

Company told her she could work in Jefferson City or Columbia.

She has a good job now.

oneshot

[Terrierman]

On 6/23/2020 at 1:57 PM, Terrierman said:

Who here wishes they were black so their life would have been better?  I'm honest enough to say no thank you.

Well?  Anybody?

[Mitch f]

58 minutes ago, Terrierman said:

Well?  Anybody?

I’ll be Lebron

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, Terrierman said:

Well?  Anybody?

As long as my pants can stay at my waistline, I don't have to switch to menthol cigs, and I can still hate basketball..... I'm good with it.  

[DADAKOTA]

Patrick Mahomes would be a good gig.