Fly or Not ?

[fishinwrench]

1 minute ago, tjm said:

So it would be legal on the Blue Ribbons?

I don't know why it wouldn't be.  

[tjm]

That is kinda what I thought until I  saw the reply above. The squirmies Ive seen pictures of before were tied like San Juan Worms. 

[fishinwrench]

2 hours ago, tjm said:

That is kinda what I thought until I  saw the reply above. The squirmies Ive seen pictures of before were tied like San Juan Worms. 

I don't think anyone at MDC is willing to get into splitting hairs over a particular fly "pattern".    A lawyer would have a field day with that.

I'd be willing to bet 1000.00 that I can beat anyone employed by MDC in a quiz regarding fly fishing and/or fly tackle.  

[snagged in outlet 3]

7 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

I don't think anyone at MDC is willing to get into splitting hairs over a particular fly "pattern".    A lawyer would have a field day with that.

Does anyone even checked anymore?  Especially if you are waving a fairy wand around?  

[tjm]

7 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

I don't think anyone at MDC is willing to get into splitting hairs over a particular fly "pattern". 

The enforcement division wanted to last year as you will recall. It's been obvious for decades that they don't know how to define "fly" , because every year the definition changes. They need to quit trying and just say artificial lure.

3 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

Does anyone even checked anymore?  Especially if you are waving a fairy wand around?  

I've seen the Ranger talking to guys at RRSP during the C&R. What he asked or checked, I'm not sure. I know he's not there all the time and works other Parks but not sure which ones. I was told last year that he would ticket a squirmy, but I didn't talk to him about them because I don't have any.

It's been years since I've seen a CA at the Park, but I did see one writing a citation at Capps last season, so they check some things. The local Agent will check me and ask 50 questions every time he sees me on the Elk, but I never see him on the tribs, but that doesn't mean he isn't checking them cause I ain't out there as much as I used to be. He never asks to examine the fly but he does look at it as he's asking other stuff.

[fishinwrench]

16 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

Does anyone even checked anymore?  Especially if you are waving a fairy wand around?  

I haven't seen a MDC agent check a fisherman since they started the online permit thing.     They used to always check people down at the bridge during the white bass run numerous times every year, but ever since they switched over to where you have to print your own fishing license they stopped coming around.    I don't see the little green/white runabout checking on the dock crappie folks anymore either.   

I've only been checked at Bennett (for FISHING) once in my whole life, but have been harrassed for other unrelated crap 3 times. 

[tjm]

As many people as there are in the Parks, the Rangers must look for triggers of who to check, they couldn't possibly check every one. They'd end up checking one guy 6 times and missing two dozen others. Not enough of them to be everywhere at once. It seems like ten times as many "fly fishers" as five years ago and twenty times as many as ten years ago.

And it seems like 80% of "fly fishers" don't use "fly tackle".

[snagged in outlet 3]

I don't think I've ever been checked in the parks.  50 plus years of going there.

[tjm]

I think the parks are run by the concessionaire, on a max profit basis and tickets would  hurt profits, I've only seem the Ranger out of the car during C&R. There's also an overlap in enforcement responsibility  between Parks and MDC and I wonder if each lets the other take the  lead. Sell the tag and look away. Pure profit for the concessionaire, and he probably objects to enforcement messing with it?

No one looks at limits, used to see guys carrying a dozen or more fish to the cleaning station and chucking all the fillets into the same bag. Maybe that's why they took the cleaning station down. Makes it less obvious.

[Johnsfolly]

1 hour ago, tjm said:

It seems like ten times as many "fly fishers" as five years ago and twenty times as many as ten years ago.

And it seems like 80% of "fly fishers" don't use "fly tackle".

Based upon the definition any jig with feathers, chenille, etc. can be fished with spin gear in those areas.