1st timer to Crane Creek

[Johnsfolly]

1 hour ago, Quillback said:

Have not seen many road kill dillos around here this year.  

Feel lucky Jeff.. We saw a bunch more Dillon road kill than I remember along I70 around Columbia when we drove around back in June. The first one I remember seeing above the Missouri was about 8 to 10 yrs ago.

[LuvToFish]

I was driving by Arma, KS on 69 one day when I spied a dead dillo in the road. That town surely missed out, the high school mascot should have been named, wait for it, the Arma Dillo's. 😆🤣

[bfishn]

2 hours ago, Quillback said:

Have not seen many road kill dillos around here this year.  

No shortage in my 'hood. Wouldn't mind them if they'd leave my red wiggler crop alone.

[Nick Adams]

I would say you won't need waders this time of year. I always start in the City park. I've caught fish in the park several times, especially the big hole in front of the bridge.

[tjm]

On 7/14/2021 at 10:03 AM, Ryan Miloshewski said:

With the temperatures so high you should really limit fishing to sunrise to 8:30 am and 7pm to dark.

have you ever checked the stream temperatures in summer? I don't think air  temps have a great effect on fish survival and the only time I was there in July the water felt plenty cold. I had assumed it was spring fed and as such would have approximately the same temps year round? The part of the stream I saw was pretty well shaded and had bank under cuts that should keep the water cool.

[tjm]

19 hours ago, BilletHead said:

 What MDC says. About both Timber and Cottonmouths .

I live in one of those white counties and have seen five timbers and three cottonmouths over the years. I wonder how they think snakes got across the white counties to get to the isolated or more northern shaded  counties. That only shows where an MDC bio or herp actually saw the snake.

[BilletHead]

18 minutes ago, tjm said:

I live in one of those white counties and have seen five timbers and three cottonmouths over the years. I wonder how they think snakes got across the white counties to get to the isolated or more northern shaded  counties. That only shows where an MDC bio or herp actually saw the snake.

             I think they just need to do some updating. As academic people there has to be a properly trained scientist knowing what they are looking at. I can understand it at times because every wannabe herp experts see is as a rattlecopperheadedpuffadder.  

[Ryan Miloshewski]

31 minutes ago, tjm said:

have you ever checked the stream temperatures in summer? I don't think air  temps have a great effect on fish survival and the only time I was there in July the water felt plenty cold. I had assumed it was spring fed and as such would have approximately the same temps year round? The part of the stream I saw was pretty well shaded and had bank under cuts that should keep the water cool.

I personally have not but I know a few guys who have and the water gets in the 65-70 degree range in the heat of the day, in the sun. 

[BilletHead]

30 minutes ago, tjm said:

have you ever checked the stream temperatures in summer? I don't think air  temps have a great effect on fish survival and the only time I was there in July the water felt plenty cold. I had assumed it was spring fed and as such would have approximately the same temps year round? The part of the stream I saw was pretty well shaded and had bank under cuts that should keep the water cool.

             Good thought. I know out west where they rely on snow melt to feed the rivers during warm spells they shout down during high heat hours. Montana for sure. Does anyone know the temps coming out of roaring river or Bennett spring and does that temp shift much?  I am betting there is a daily record. I imagine towards the end of the trout area yes it could warm up some. Fish have a way of knowing and try to stay where they are most comfortable. Bass run into the Bennett spring branch to constant warmer water during the winter. I bet the trout move up higher if the flow will let them to be in the sweet spot. 

   Heck I move in and out if I can to feel good. 

[ness]

4 hours ago, bfishn said:

No shortage in my 'hood. Wouldn't mind them if they'd leave my red wiggler crop alone.

The Cadillac of worms!