Quillback Posted July 15, 2022 Author Posted July 15, 2022 All these impoundments are man made environments, nothing natural about them at all. These fish won't screw anything up. tjm 1
fishinwrench Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 36 minutes ago, Quillback said: All these impoundments are man made environments No they aren't. They are are dammed rivers. Pretty natural. Beavers do it too. Are beavers natural? In either case dams can be removed, or will remove themselves, and nature will take back over. Dams are no big deal.... American eels have turned up in minnow ponds in Richland Mo., And Stripers prowl the pools on the NFOW. tjm 1
fishinwrench Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Quillback said: These fish won't screw anything up. Tell that to Al Agnew, and river Smallmouth. Why is there such a thing as a "Meanmouth bass"? Why do we have hybrid/white bass mutts in lake O ? Bighead carp?
Quillback Posted July 15, 2022 Author Posted July 15, 2022 No these lakes are not natural, they are man made. If Lake O was not a man made impoundment you would not have those things there, they are a result of a man made ecosystem.
Dutch Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 Bring them on. Maybe they will produce a bunch of double digit fish.
fishinwrench Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, Quillback said: No these lakes are not natural, they are man made. If Lake O was not a man made impoundment you would not have those things there, they are a result of a man made ecosystem. Somebody check this boys vitals, he may be on the verge of a stroke. 🤔 fshndoug 1
Flysmallie Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, fishinwrench said: Tell that to Al Agnew, and river Smallmouth. Why is there such a thing as a "Meanmouth bass"? Why do we have hybrid/white bass mutts in lake O ? Bighead carp? Ok but if we are going to get rid of all these things can we start with the trout?
fishinwrench Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Flysmallie said: Ok but if we are going to get rid of all these things can we start with the trout? Trout aren't hurting anything, but ok fine.......if that's what it takes. 🙄
rps Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 Once upon a time, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Missouri had many miles of rivers and streams full of smallmouth bass, walleye, sauger, and other clear water species. Steam boats plied the waters in the wet season. Then someone decided the farmers and settlers needed fewer floods and cheap electric lights. Dams went up. To salvage the ruination of the rivers they stocked trout. To hide the decline of smallmouth, they planted largemouth to boost the natural population. They took northern lake walleye and stocked enough to hide the river strain genetics forever. Are we not a bit late to worry about "natural" genetics?
fishinwrench Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, rps said: Once upon a time, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Missouri had many miles of rivers and streams full of smallmouth bass, walleye, sauger, and other clear water species. Steam boats plied the waters in the wet season. Then someone decided the farmers and settlers needed fewer floods and cheap electric lights. Dams went up. To salvage the ruination of the rivers they stocked trout. To hide the decline of smallmouth, they planted largemouth to boost the natural population. They took northern lake walleye and stocked enough to hide the river strain genetics forever. Are we not a bit late to worry about "natural" genetics? They never altered or purposely mixed genetics (created new strains). Now they are doing that, and yeah soon it will be too late to stop......if it isn't too late already. Nobody, regardless of how smart they think they are TODAY, should be doing anything that is irreversible. I'm surprised and disappointed that you guys here disagree with that. Kinda worries me. 😳 tjm and snagged in outlet 3 2
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