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33 minutes ago, Maverickpro201 said:

                  That is a fatty!  Thanks for sharing.

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Looks bigger than 10.5" 

I've caught bigger Redear.

What is Missouri's record Goggle eye?  Surely it's 2lbs. or better, but what was the length?

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8 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

What is Missouri's record Goggle eye? 

MDC doesn't  give the length of the old records; but in the life history of goggle-eye MDC says  "Size:  Total length: to 11 inches; weight: to 1 pound; maximum about 17 inches and 2 pounds, 12 ounces."  According to New York DEC   a 15" rock bass would weigh about 2 lb 8 Oz and an 11"  would weigh 1 lb 0 oz. ; so by inference the Mo. record must have been about 16'.

Mo. record Pole and line: Goggle-eye

Weight-   2 lbs. 12oz.

Lake or Stream-    Big Piney River

Date-  06/15/1968

Angler-  William J. Rod

Hometown-    Kirkwood, MO

 

8 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

Looks bigger than 10.5" 

really long arms and the image is distorted because it was taken with a phone, his hand looks as big as his head.

On Redear MDC says " Size:  Total length: 8 to 10½ inches; weight: 6½ to 12 ounces; can be more than 12 inches and more than 4 pounds."

From another source " The World Record Redear Sunfish was caught on Lake Havasu in Arizona by Thomas Farchione, weighing 6 pounds and 4 ounces and was 17 inches long."

compare to "The biggest rock bass ever caught weighted 3 pounds. This world record was caught on the York River in Ontario, Canada by Herbert Ratner, Jr in 1998."

 

The big surprise I got in looking this stuff up is that MDC shows goggle-eye only occurring in  perhaps 20% of the state. I had assumed they were statewide. USGS shows them as Non-indigenous in all of Mo., Ok., and Ar. with the earliest record of them in the  1880s, apparently in the Elk drainage. Current records first identify them about 1960 in several watersheds.

 

 

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4 hours ago, tjm said:

 

The big surprise I got in looking this stuff up is that MDC shows goggle-eye only occurring in  perhaps 20% of the state.

No surprise here, I know of quite a few good Smallmouth streams that curiously are void of goggle eye. 

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29 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

No surprise here, I know of quite a few good Smallmouth streams that curiously are void of goggle eye. 

well you'd be near the northern extent of their invasion in the state, I'd be right near where they turned the first one loose, I'm not positive but I think every stream in my five counties has some rock bass.

The curious thing is that in their native waters they don't go much farther south but they do extend into Canada to the north. So by guess if only a portion the state had Northern Rock Bass it would be the northern part rather than the southwest part.

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4 hours ago, tjm said:

Mo. record Pole and line: Goggle-eye

Weight-   2 lbs. 12oz.

Lake or Stream-    Big Piney River

Date-  06/15/1968

Angler-  William J. Rod

Hometown-    Kirkwood, MO

I love the fact theMO  record belongs to a guy named Billy Rod!  That's awesome!

Rock Bass are cool fish.  I first started catching them in north-central Illinois... Kishwaukee River.  They were nice ones, but I didn't know any different.  Not 12-inchers, tho...maybe 8-10".  Wish I had pictures of some of them...but that was back in the 35 mm camera days.

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I can't say that I've ever gone out specifically to catch them, but they've been handy for a couple of campsite fish frys over the years.   They taste good. 

I specifically remember trying to get enough froglegs on the Gasconade to feed us one night, but having to rely on Goggle-eye to fill the plates.   They tasted better than the froglegs. 😉

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I've caught N rock bass in the Niangua as well as a river that feeds into the Missouri. Shadow bass from the Current and Ozark bass from around Ozark MO.

I still need to catch a Roanoke bass😉

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