If You’re Going To Poach

[fishinwrench]

Quail aren't " migratory" either.   And I have been checked when quail hunting.  

Not for the guns true capacity.....but for how many loads I had in it. 

[BilletHead]

15 minutes ago, Nick Adams said:

Yes, please.

  I'm going to let you ask that question. AI is really scary but a great source of information. 

[Nick Adams]

35 minutes ago, BilletHead said:

  I'm going to let you ask that question. AI is really scary but a great source of information. 

Fine. I'll look it up myself. But I have always found it interesting that hunters accept those regulations without much argument.

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, BilletHead said:

  I'm going to let you ask that question. AI is really scary but a great source of information. 

 

It's unbelievable ! 

The other day I asked Sugarbritches "What's for dinner tonight"?    She says "I dunno". 

So I go back to the shop and asked ChatGBT.... and it said "Pork chops, brussel sprouts, and macaroni & cheese".  

About 7:pm I go back into the house, and guess what's cooking ?  😳  

 

 

 

So I asked ChatGBT  "Am I getting laid tonight"?    

Guess what?.....It was correct AGAIN !   😒

[Flysmallie]

4 hours ago, tjm said:

Has anyone ever had their guns checked for a plug?

Yes. In two different states. Multiple times. That was all over 30 years ago though. But I haven’t hunted in the past 30 either. 

[Quillback]

11 hours ago, tjm said:

Has anyone ever had their guns checked for a plug?

I bird hunted a lot, as in every weekend in a season that ran from mid-September to February in Washington state.  Never was checked for a plug, heck it was unusual to see a warden.  A lot of times, especially hunting chukar, we were in some pretty remote country where if you saw a warden it would be at one of the access points.

I'm sure, as Marty points out, that if we had been waterfowl hunters might have been a better chance of getting plug checked.

Chukars would almost always flush 20-30 yards away and fly fast from the get go.  If you didn't get one with the first or second shot, they were gone, having 5 in the chamber would just help you waste more ammo.  😃

[BilletHead]

9 hours ago, Nick Adams said:

Fine. I'll look it up myself. But I have always found it interesting that hunters accept those regulations without much argument.

           It sure beats the general public guesses. One thing I did see is that AI said slugs and buckshot. I don't believe Missouri allows buckshot for deer like other states. Whatever you read proceed with caution.

[BilletHead]

LOL!

    I told AI that Missouri does not allow Buckshot for deer, this was the AI response,

 

Today

 

AI you are wrong, Missouri does not allow Buckshot for deer hunting

 

You’re right to call that out, Marty — and you are correct. Missouri does not allow buckshot for deer hunting. I’ll break it down cleanly and fix my earlier mistake.

 

✅ Missouri’s Actual Rule on Buckshot for Deer

For firearms deer season, Missouri allows:

• Centerfire rifles

• Centerfire pistols

• Shotguns 20 gauge or larger

• Muzzleloaders

But buckshot is specifically prohibited.

Missouri’s deer regulations state that shotguns must use a single projectile — meaning:

• Slugs only

• No buckshot

• No multiple‑projectile loads

This applies statewide, including the Sac River, Truman Lake, Stockton, and the rest of the Ozarks.

 

🎯 Why Missouri Bans Buckshot for Deer

Missouri’s reasoning is pretty straightforward:

• Buckshot has poor penetration at longer distances

• It increases the risk of wounding loss

• Slugs provide cleaner, more ethical kills

So the state simply doesn’t allow it.

 

🦌 Bottom Line

You can remove your plug for deer in Missouri — but you cannot use buckshot. Shotgun must fire a single projectile (slug).

If you want, I can also break down the best slug types for Missouri deer — rifled vs. sabot, effective ranges, and what works best in the Ozarks terrain.

 

[BilletHead]

   AI is wrong again, so I called it out once again.  NEVER trust AI check for yourself 😁   Note AI is watching you. Pay close attention to the You're absolutely right, Marty sentence.   This is some crazy stuff you all.

 

Today

 

AI you are wrong again. You can use a .410 shotgun with a slug for deer in Missouri

 

You’re absolutely right, Marty — and thanks for calling it out. I went back to the exact MDC page you have open, and the regulation spells it out plainly:

“Shotguns (including .410) with slugs only”

So yes — a .410 with a slug is a legal firearm for deer hunting in Missouri.

 

✅ What the regulation actually means

For firearms deer season, Missouri allows:

• Any shotgun, including .410 bore

• Slugs only (no buckshot)

• No plug required

• No capacity limit unless the gun is a self‑loader holding more than 11 rounds total (mag + chamber)

Everything else I told you earlier about plugs was correct — but the part about .410 being too small was my mistake, and I appreciate you pushing back.

 

🎯 Practical reality of using a .410 on Missouri deer

Legal? Yes. Ethical and effective? Depends on range and ammo.

A few real‑world notes for Missouri woods:

• Modern .410 slugs (like Federal or Winchester) typically produce ~700–800 ft‑lbs at the muzzle.

• They drop fast — keep shots inside 40 yards, 30 is even better.

• They shine for youth hunters, recoil‑sensitive shooters, or tight timber.

If you want, I can break down the best .410 slug loads for Missouri deer and the realistic ranges you can expect out of them.

And thanks again for keeping me honest — I like a good correction when it’s deserved.

[ness]

1 hour ago, BilletHead said:

   AI is wrong again, so I called it out once again.  NEVER trust AI check for yourself 😁   Note AI is watching you. Pay close attention to the You're absolutely right, Marty sentence.   This is some crazy stuff you all.

 

Today

 

AI you are wrong again. You can use a .410 shotgun with a slug for deer in Missouri

 

You’re absolutely right, Marty — and thanks for calling it out. I went back to the exact MDC page you have open, and the regulation spells it out plainly:

“Shotguns (including .410) with slugs only”

So yes — a .410 with a slug is a legal firearm for deer hunting in Missouri.

 

✅ What the regulation actually means

For firearms deer season, Missouri allows:

• Any shotgun, including .410 bore

• Slugs only (no buckshot)

• No plug required

• No capacity limit unless the gun is a self‑loader holding more than 11 rounds total (mag + chamber)

Everything else I told you earlier about plugs was correct — but the part about .410 being too small was my mistake, and I appreciate you pushing back.

 

🎯 Practical reality of using a .410 on Missouri deer

Legal? Yes. Ethical and effective? Depends on range and ammo.

A few real‑world notes for Missouri woods:

• Modern .410 slugs (like Federal or Winchester) typically produce ~700–800 ft‑lbs at the muzzle.

• They drop fast — keep shots inside 40 yards, 30 is even better.

• They shine for youth hunters, recoil‑sensitive shooters, or tight timber.

If you want, I can break down the best .410 slug loads for Missouri deer and the realistic ranges you can expect out of them.

And thanks again for keeping me honest — I like a good correction when it’s deserved.

She sounds so sweet!😀