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Ketchup, Can you explain to me why you are 100% pro-tourney? I'm not against tourney fishing, but why are tourney fishers exempt from state wide regulations? What is the benefit to average Joe of having our fish hauled around and possibly destroyed, with no limits?

I guess one could take several pictures of the fish from different angles or with different background and include them with slightly varying weights or lengths also?

I was just asking. I have never understood the fish tournaments. If we allow that all tournament participants are honest and beyond cheating, why not just take their word for what they caught and eliminate the need for pictures or weigh in? I think almost anything would be better for the fishery than sorting, culling and live hauling the fish all day. But..?

Wouldn't that require a judge of some sort in every boat?

Funny, I was just walking around Cabela's fly section last evening and thinking I was surprised at all the stuff they did have. Most of it stuff that I would rarely need, but a feller could sure tie a bunch of patterns with what they have. They did not have any CGR rods though and I wanted to fondle one of those.

What is the solution/better way?

I think my grand dad was near 60 yo when they stocked deer in this county, he certainly considered them a mistake on MDC's part, and I recall when they were scarce enough to be reported on the store porch. I said "in a way" the habitat MDC stocked with deer was nothing like the habitat that once supported elk and bison here. The deer stocked were foreign to this area, I don't know where they came from. We've had carp in this county longer than deer.

BilletHead , the grad student that held the deer for a study he was doing (on feed?)wrote of the happenings a long time ago, its probably on the net some where.

In away deer are an invasive, my older brothers could remember the release of the first deer in this area and now they are most as numerous as squirrels, I see way more deer than rabbits or snakes or coyotes. Really hard to make a judgement of whether restoration of species or even habitat is going to be good or bad until after the fact. As humans we have altered the planet to the extent that we live in an essentially contrived or alien place. Wild things and places have taken on an amusement park aura. Wildlife and wild fish no longer have intrinsic value as survival needs.

Scrapie infected sheep kept in the same pen with deer that were later released to wild again with CWD? Guess by strictest definition not man made but it did not happen in nature. I really think it is antlers more than venison with the money people. Rules and laws about interstate movement has never deterred the transport of exotic animals why would it stop captive deer being smuggled around? We are always going to have the CWD or the threat of it, until research develops a remedy. I heard a tale of three herds of goats getting sick and the remnants of all three herds being shipped to meat markets on yonder coasts. The symptoms were of scrapie and I saw deer in that immediate vicinity with like symptoms, no reports made of the goats and I had no samples of the deer, so that area remains "clean".

Well, I was thinking Medalist and Feralite .... Rebates are good I guess, but they always give the idea that the MSRP is too high to begin with. And yeah, I think you have buy both t qualify; but, I bet they sell some of each to folks that misread the offer.

Deer get mange (not really a disease), Lyme disease , eurlikeosous, blue tongue, hoof and mouth, parvovirus has been reported in California mule deer, Adenovirus Hemorrhagic Disease and Epizootic Hemorrhagic Disease a kill lot of deer, Fibromatosis causes hair loss in deer, Canine distemper affects many wild animals ( all carnivores), any mammal can get rabies- a Pennsylvania hunter killed a rabid deer several years ago. I'm not sure why CWD gets so much money thrown at it, other than it is made in a university and spread by deer trafficking. They have now learned that not only the ground stays contaminated for unknown decades, but that plants uptake the prions and transmit the disease to new grazers. I guess the fact that prion disease is known to have jumped species a few times and extreme fear of how humans might be affected has put pressure on authorities to attempt to contain it. Truth is the spread may be slowed but the areas where it has been it will be forever, or for the foreseeable future. Some carriers will go undetected and continue to spread the contamination. Think vultures. Do we still have the deer "farms" in those affected counties?

https://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=sgf&gage=bsgm7 2' over normal maybe? Haven't been over there lately but Li'l Sugar ain't very wadeable today.

Have not used the Old Town. My alternative to the sit-backer (actually wife's idea) is a stadium seat $2 @ yardsale, we haven't used the canoe for several years. but it used to work. (folding kind with hook under + bungee) The complete seats are a different thing. My brother once just bolted a bass boat seat to the existing rear seat of his Osage.

I like those wonder rods, back in the '50s-'70s they were state of the art, probably sell now between 20 &50$ depending on who bids and condition of the rod. It will have a date code as to manufacture and recommended line weights, possibly in the old letter system. Heavier in hand than modern rods but will do anything you can do with a fly. Ask here and you be where the glass experts hang out http://fiberglassflyrodders.com/forum/ The HI reel I am not familiar with but guess at same value more or less. edit; thread on that reel http://fiberglassflyrodders.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=54252

Maybe next time I'll play, my stuff is all boxed up and out in the shed. I've never done a swap, never heard of one actually, but I'm kinda new to fishing forums. Will you post pictures of all the goodies? I really only know two Bass flies, a popper and a jig. Be interesting to learn more.

ahha, I must have been tired. We deal with floods every year from mid March to mid May, then drought or severe drought from early July to September, so the weather and its associated pains aren't usually part of my conversation, it will rain because it always has before and it will be followed by drought. Carry on.

Not really. My radar shows rain on Beaver now and running all the way to the south of Texas. We been stuck at home for over a week cept one day (Wednesday?) when she walked/waded to the county road where we park for floods. Off and on til Tuesday night then start again Thursday night. No point in repairing the drive til we get a clear week forecast. Ground so full that any measurable rain can cause the bluffs to spout and creeks to run high.

That's the one I thought might work & the one on the right also, but they all will on the right day at the right place. I do think you will do better to copy proven patterns though. Woolly worm, woolly bugger, generic nymphs, Clouser minnow, marabou minnow are all easy enough to learn and after tying a lot of other stuff what I use the most. For small dry mine are almost always Griffith’s Gnat or simple brown or grizzly hackle fly. Love them pan fish on a fly. They can sure spit fast.

To me that's right handed because the rod is in the right hand, why I asked.

huh, I think I would have cut a piece of plywood to cover the existing surface and extend to where ever with a single 2x3 to support the rear edge from the gunwales. add carpet maybe. Just looks like stuff in that picture is semi permanent/hard to swap out?

Knowing nothing about that kind of tackle, what makes it left or right handed? Do you hold the rod in left hand and wind with right hand or hold the rod right handed and wind with left hand?

Privacy keeps MDC from using game cams on public land, I don't think they will be using drones. Maybe the need for drones will override the perceived need for privacy and laws will change. I have read that shooting down a drone is same violation as shooting down a 747 or a chopper, max of 20 years in jail.

Usta be a carp fly fish tourney in Bella Vista, Ar. (Sugar Creek) sponsored by the Orvis guy in Fayetteville, iirc. That store apparently died, always wondered about a connection?

Pretty likely that NOAA provides the info for all the commercial weather guessers. Taxpayers can afford all the satellites and thousands of radar stations better than civilians could. They also have weather graphs and weather generated for fires/control burns that are handy. Explore their sites. At my location the NWS radar is very accurate and refreshed every few minutes, neat way to track these flood producing storms.