Jerry Rapp Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 I have not followed this thread until now. Sort of a WTE thread. Why take a leak on a gravel bar when you could just sit down on the gravel bar? There is a lot more to this story.
Chief Grey Bear Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 If you did succeed in taking the river front owners property, how would you come up with the cash to compensate them? What about the county's school children that would lose the tax money? What is the tax rate on a gravel bar? Which could be gone come the next flood. Then what? It's a joke son.Not a word was said when Al Gore got injected into the conversation. Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
ness Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 What is the tax rate on a gravel bar? Which could be gone come the next flood. Then what? Not a word was said when Al Gore got injected into the conversation. Did you look at the video? The guy's a dead ringer for Al Gore. No politics intended. John
Smalliebigs Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 no problem Ness....my only response to you is post a fishing report and possibly some pics.....getting hazed by senior citizens is therapeutic for me Mamma says it ain't always what you say, but how you say it. Mamma also says if you can't say something nice then don't say nothing at all.
ness Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 no problem Ness....my only response to you is post a fishing report and possibly some pics.....getting hazed by senior citizens is therapeutic for me Fair enough. But, you have been on a bit of a tear recently... John
Gavin Posted July 23, 2013 Posted July 23, 2013 Lessons learned....Don't bring rocks to a gun fight...Be kind to others.
ColdWaterFshr Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Lessons learned....Don't bring rocks to a gun fight...Be kind to others. It really is that simple.
1969Larson Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 Blessed is the peacemaker. If one person had remembered this then this would not have happened. (Oh, and that is not my quote. I wouldn't dare plagiarize this guy.).
Al Agnew Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 http://www.nationalrivers.org/us-law-who-owns.htm Lots of good river property ownership info on this page. Just wanted to point out that if you try to go by what's posted there in Missouri you won't get far. While all the federal stuff might or might not be valid, as far as I know NO state goes by any of it. Every state has their own laws or practices, most of which are more restrictive than what's posted on that site. Unless and until somebody takes a trespass case to the U.S. Supreme Court and actually puts those federal "laws" up for a decision, they will be about as useful as mammary glands on a boar hog.
Al Agnew Posted July 24, 2013 Posted July 24, 2013 If you did succeed in taking the river front owners property, how would you come up with the cash to compensate them? What about the county's school children that would lose the tax money? It is not and will not come to the point of taking property. At best, it would be a legislative validation of what the MO Supreme Court decision already said--that although the landowner owns everything but the water, the public has an easement to use the rivers and gravel bars. That's really the way it is now on any of the float streams, and anybody that owns land on them either accepts that fact, or like this guy tries to go against it. But anybody buying river front property SHOULD expect that there will be people using the gravel bars.
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