Two Killed And A Couple Injured

[fishinwrench]

I think Jerry was pointing out WHY there aren't more regs on where the rigs can run....or TRY to run.

Not necessarily that he condoned it.

At least that's the way I perceived it.

[Flysmallie]

I think Jerry was pointing out WHY there aren't more regs on where the rigs can run....or TRY to run.

Not necessarily that he condoned it.

At least that's the way I perceived it.

I could see that. Still doesn't make it right.

Sorry if that's what you meant Jerry. But I would say if that's the case it's really flawed because floaters would spend way more money in a years time than the jet boaters could. Just look at the number of outfitters that profit off floating. And liquor stores.

[Kcdangler]

Respect each other I own both I see both sides it's respect

[Seth]

I've owned both canoes and a jet boat. In my opinion the people in the canoe,kayak, tube, or wading should have the right of way without question. This was more of a tradition, In my opinion(grandfathered in) than jet boats are. They are the craft with the ability to kill or injure people and damage property vs the other people. The people floating are having to put effort into what they are doing and where they're going. A jet boat driver is putting no effort into the activity and just steering and is the reckless one in my opinion. Of all the laws I hear people wanting to impose on others, the banning of jet boats on smaller stretches of rivers makes the most sense. They are dangerous to others on the water. A comparable scenario it letting four wheelers ride as fast as they would like on any bicycle or running trails. It just makes no sense.

When it's low and there is only one path through a riffle for jet boaters to get through, don't clog the freaking chute! Floaters can simply stand up and drag their canoe in little to no water. Jet boats require being on plane to get through those skinny areas. Floaters have control of that situation, the jet boater does not. Now if there is plenty of water and the jet boater is getting way too close to the floaters, that's an entirely different story. My only gripe about floaters is clogging the chutes and making a dangerous situation out of something that shouldn't be. It has nothing to do with who spends the most money to enjoy a day on the water.

I use both. You'll never see me in a canoe on the Gasconade simply because I know I'll get beat to death by jet boats. My canoe only see's the Bourbeuse and Meramec. Those two bodies of water a much more conducive to floaters imo.

[Lvn2Fish]

When it's low and there is only one path through a riffle for jet boaters to get through, don't clog the freaking chute! Floaters can simply stand up and drag their canoe in little to no water. Jet boats require being on plane to get through those skinny areas. Floaters have control of that situation, the jet boater does not. Now if there is plenty of water and the jet boater is getting way too close to the floaters, that's an entirely different story. My only gripe about floaters is clogging the chutes and making a dangerous situation out of something that shouldn't be. It has nothing to do with who spends the most money to enjoy a day on the water.

I use both. You'll never see me in a canoe on the Gasconade simply because I know I'll get beat to death by jet boats. My canoe only see's the Bourbeuse and Meramec. Those two bodies of water a much more conducive to floaters imo.

Maybe you shouldn't run your jet boat when there is only one little chute open. Wait for me and my PADDLE to move through the rapid. It cracks my up how cool these guys with there 40 horse jets are. So your saying , when I hear the jet heading my way, to get out of the canoe start to drag it across this little "chute", while your going balls out in 5 inches of water. That makes perfect sense. See a group of people scrambling to run through a river just because the water is too low for you to come off pad. Thats is unrealistic IMO.

My favorite run in with local jet boat guy happend a couple weeks ago on the eleven point river. There is spot where the current sweeps you into a root wad. Jet boat guy parks his boats in the eddie where you have to take the current and indefinatly flip. This being jet boat guys main objective, and his weekend entertainment, and possibly a lucrative buisness picking up what others loose. Me being the guy I am, with all my gear for a two day float crashes into your blazer, doesn't flip anything besides the bird.

[Jerry Rapp]

this is my view. Jet boats should not be allowed on the streams. I know this is sort of contradictory to what I said above. But jet boats really stir the rivers up. It is amazing a smallie can spawn in May or June, when the rivers have optimal stages for spawning and running jets. The waves produced by jet boats have to silt in all most all the beds with the silt they wash in from the shoreline. I have also seen several instances on Black River where jet boaters ran down or up underneath K Bridge while there were many people enjoying the river. Not safe. The Ozarks streams are for floating and leisure. If someone needs to go fast in a boat, then go to a lake.

[Kcdangler]

Remember those are the rainy months

[steve l]

Seriously Seth? The river revolves around the jet boat? Everyone in canoes or tubes should work around them?

Jerry, I totally agree with you. The jets should be banned on 1) crowded rivers and 2) smaller rivers that leave little room to maneuver. I've posted it before, those things are just a blight on the rivers. Wakes, the obnoxious sound, the exhaust, the churning of the waters. Just no place on what are supposedly wilderness streams.

Keep them on the lower parts where the rivers get enough size to handle them.

[Mitch f]

I would give up my jet boat in a minute if I had to..... It would make the rivers better for sure. I typically don't go very much in the summer anyway. The river is too congested.

[Greasy B]

Yeah, I would probably do the same, of even though my "jet boat" is a lot more boat than jet. Having only weekends to fish and the my lack of tolerance for partiers and power boat traffic I seldom get to fish the most productive stretches of my two favorite bass rivers.