Uncertainty at Ranger boats

[Champ188]

14 hours ago, Bass Enforcer said:

Amen fishing wrench! The other shame of all of this is the fact that if anyone of these nay sayers were offered a deal with Johnny Morris I would almost bet anyone of them would take it. (Im sure I'll get a "not me" response from that) I can tell you I know a few people who have worked for him for a very long time and/or currently still do.  All three of the people that i know who work for him absolutely love him as a boss. I'm sure you can find those who don't like him but they are either jealous or want something for nothing or just simply choose to be unhappy in life. The shame of all of this is the fact that this is supposed to a fishing forum.  You could probably go back to its beginning and see that most information in the past was positive fishing information. Now more than what should be, is negative. I just wish all you nay sayers would just leave the forum and come back when you can grow the hell up and if that never happens (the growing up part) then i wish you all luck.  Yes some of you have a lot to offer but who gives a s#!t  anymore. I would rather just hear how someone had a great time fishing and how they caught them than to listen to you freaking cry babies whine about stupid s#!t.  Even if they aren't a "great" fisherman.  The fact of the matter is this...if you cry babies out there started a business and had opportunities for your business to grow you wouldn't just stop the possible growth of your business and say that's too greedy. No you would continue to allow your business to flourish just as he does. 

Enforcer, you say no one forced Ranger to sell. Absolutely right.

Likewise, no one forces you to read posts you don't like, let alone comment on them with thinly veiled curse words and name-calling throughout.

Practically every post on this forum deals directly with fishing. A few do not but are related. Why not skip the ones you don't like rather than suggest that people leave the forum because they hold a different view than you?

[Old plug]

I have one opinion of bussiness people like Jonny Morris, WallMart, many more China Butt kissing bussiness men on trial for treason. 

[Phil Lilley]

So using symbols is supposed to hide the fact that you're using words that aren't supposed to be used here?

What I don't understand is why grown men can't find ways of expressing themselves without being potty mouths.  Seriously.

If you know it's against the rules here, don't do it.  If you have a problem with it, go someplace else where you can let it fly.

[Phil Lilley]

As for the argument on hand, I just bought 3 new bass boats for my rental fleet.  I really could have kept my old boats another couple of years but I chose it was time to move and did it.  No one told me to do it, nor did I have anyone telling I shouldn't or couldn't because I may have gotten a few more good years on the old ones.

It's my business, I run it like I want.  I like my business growing, getting bigger, making more revenue.  If I'm not growing and my revenue isn't growing, I believe my business is not flourishing as it should.  My business opinion.  There's no one to tell me any different, not in an official capacity.  No one to tell me, "enough is enough... you're big enough, you're making enough money."

If someone told me that, I'd tell them to go back to Russia!  Or Cuba!  Who's to say "enough is enough?"  Now I'm talking business revenue here, not personal income.  And I think that's what many people confuse when criticizing business people/businesses.  They look at JM and see he's worth billions and bash him for growing his business too big when no one knows what his income is.  

As for income, I also believe it's no one business but that person.  You're paid what you're worth to a company and if you're overpaid then the company is not doing good business and it will show eventually.  I don't want to get "religious" on you but I chose not to store up my treasures here on this earth.  I tithe, I save what I think I'll need and give away the rest.

Time is worth more than any amount of money.  You can't buy time.  How you spend your time dictates your worth in many cases.  Does JM spend his time doing fun things like go on exotic fishing trips all the time (he could but his business would suffer)?  Does he sit at home and watch fishing and hunting shows?  I bet he doesn't even watch football on Sundays.  He's doing what he loves... his business.  His mind is always on his business and when it's not, it's on his family.  That's what I see when I look at JM.  Do I know him?  Nope.  But the evidence points to that.  I met his wife last spring and visited with her for a while.  She's a reflection of JM without the business edge.  Very gracious and thoughtful.  What I saw of his son that day - respectful young man.  That says a lot about JM, in my opinion.

So if you told me, or told JM, that we have made enough and need to RETIRE - we'd go kicking and screaming.  I have a different definition of that word and it's not positive.  Most men died shortly after they stop being productive... there's a reason for that.

[fishinwrench]

If a fella makes so much money that it exceeds his needs to the extent that he then just gives the excess away (to some religious organization for example) then why not lower your prices and give raises to benefit the ones who help make your business successful ?

If I worked hard for a company that gave excess money away while denying me a substantial raise I'd be pretty sour about that.

[Phil Lilley]

8 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

If a fella makes so much money that it exceeds his needs to the extent that he then just gives the excess away (to some religious organization for example) then why not lower your prices and give raises to benefit the ones who help make your business successful ?

If I worked hard for a company that gave excess money away while denying me a substantial raise I'd be pretty sour about that.

If the biz is not successful, he better do that if he wants to stay in biz.  

"Exceeds his NEEDS".  That statement suggests there should be a guideline and that is what I have a problem with.  Who's to tell me what my need is?  And what your need is?

[fishinwrench]

If you are giving money away then your needs (whatever you determine them to be) are obviously exceeded, no ?

[Phil Lilley]

Again - it's a matter of opinion.  Who's opinion has authority over others right now?  Who's going to tell you how to spend or give away your money?

If someone is going to tell me or JM how to spend their money or how much money we can make, then that same someone is going to tell you too!

[fishinwrench]

You're missing my point, but I'm dropping it.  

[Champ188]

My opinion here goes back to the original topic of discussion. When Nitro Boats started in the 1980s, they quickly "earned" a reputation for shoddy construction ... stress cracks, busted hulls, hull-cap separation, etc. Resale value was awful and there are plenty of tales out there about owners being stuck with the bill of repairing them.

If the newer models are better, as some say, then great. But it's hard to argue that Nitro has a poor reputation for quality.

Historically, Ranger has been the polar opposite. Reputation is among the very best, as is resale and owner loyalty.

With its top 3 execs packing it in, some of us are understandably concerned that Ranger quality will suffer in the name of profitability.