S-Waver... Grrrrrr

[dtrs5kprs]

1 hour ago, abkeenan said:

Yep. That is the risk/reward, feast/famine, all/nothing that is inherent with committing to the swimbaits. I myself have a very hard time throwing a bait all day to get less than 5 bites or perhaps even zero. This year I AM going to invest more time in throwing them and just see what happens. 

This is why I don't fish for muskie. Same basic concept...Oooohhh, one followed it!

Whee .

[abkeenan]

8 minutes ago, dtrs5kprs said:

This is why I don't fish for muskie. Same basic concept...Oooohhh, one followed it!

Whee .

Pretty much. At least when fishing for muskies you don't realize how much time has passed because you only can tell time by how many Labatt's you've had. 

[mjk86]

14 hours ago, Mitch f said:

Maybe you could attach a 20 lb test Fluoro line to the hook of the Ned and attach the S Waiver to that. That way it looks like a 8" fish chasing a Ned, which is a very realistic presentation.?

This works very well for crappie....I'll do a 1/64 or 1/32 and 2.5 inch trailer behind a trout fly or bug.   Doubles happen pretty frequently!

 

7 hours ago, dtrs5kprs said:

This is why I don't fish for muskie. Same basic concept...Oooohhh, one followed it!

Whee .

I'm no musky fisherman....but I've almost changed my mind after a big one blew up on a crappie I was reeling in. Definitely a heart stopper. 

[Fish24/7]

21 hours ago, Ken Drish said:

Ok- Need some help folks. I've got 4 s-wavers. Two 168's and 2 200's. I'm throwing them on a Lews Wide Bail reel with a Diawa tournament rod - med/heavy. Throwing Suffix 20# flouro. Can't

catch S*&T! It's driving me nuts... could it be where I'm throwing them? Where should I be? Bluff walls, points? Parallel to the bank?

Any suggestions would be great! Thanks! 

I don't have anything to offer about using them right now but, maybe you can apply some of this to using them in Dec.

for me they work very well in the Spring. I fish them at Lake  Norfork and Bull Shoals  during what I call "peak periods" for "big" swimbaits. I like the water temps warming up around 57 and things kind of slow down at 70 and above for me.  The rest of the year its a lot harder for me to catch them on a big swimbait. That's when they get put back on the shelf until next Spring.

when: dusk/dawn,new moon ,full moon, and during the late pre-spawn and spawn.

then there's boat position and your location.

put your boat up near the shore and cast deep, put your back to the bank is what I mean. (This is also how I position my boat sometimes when throwing a suspending jerkbait in winter) Main and secondary points near/in a spawning cove with fast drops into deep water(some kind of river or creek channel is perfect) , those are obvious places. Fan cast those areas while holding the boat in a fixed position up shallow on the point.

Huge boulder  rocks you can see with your eyes in shallower water during a warming trend in late pre spawn is another go..good luck!

 

 

 

[Moswimb8slinger]

Sorry, guys I haven't been on all weekend. Went down to NW Arkansas and won a kayak big bass tournament. Thanks for the tag.

I've had some difficulty with big baits this fall due to the warmer weather and the fish not putting on that winter "feed bag". This time last year I caught several smallies over 4lbs and largemouth up to 6lbs on the 200. The warm weather and the fact I broke my TFO magnum heavy 7'11" when yhe Bassmaster Open was in town and waited a month for a replacement. Any how, I mainly target the same areas guys throw jerkbaits and warts, shallow areas less than 20ft, chunk rock / bluffy banks. The S-waver is a super slow sink, but at some point I'm sure it suspends, but I'm not brave enough to jump in 40° water and find out how deep. I've caught a few on the 168 (party crasher), but I've also caught them on the Spro Bbz1 Jr floater, Spro Rat 50, Savage Gear 3d line-thru 6 inch slow sink, Megabass Magdraft 6 inch. But I haven't caught the size or numbers the fall like I did last year, but still catching some 16" to 19" fish on them. If you would like, I'll pm my number and we can go out and I could give you some tips. I've had 30 fish days with the 168 and best stringer on the 200 was roughly 25, along with catching my PB LM (8.69lbs, in March) on it.

[abkeenan]

Richy,

Thanks for posting pics. Fish don't get much bigger than the one in that top pic in TR.

[bluebasser86]

I've had better luck moving fish with the Savage Gear Shine Glide during the colder months. I think the taller, more shad-like profile might be drawing them in a little better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrccvNxzbm0

It's a game that takes a lot of time and practice for sure, but man it's a blast when you figure it out! If you haven't shaved down the joints on your S-waver you might try that. It really helped the action of mine a lot when I did. 

[m&m]

Richy, Congrats on the win.  Nice looking fish.  I've just got to gain some confidence in that swim bait technique.  New Year's resolution #2 is to throw it more in 2016.

Mike

[dtrs5kprs]

Richy...how much of a role do you think the kayak plays into your swimbait results (as opposed to throwing one from a sparkle barge)? Seems like the most consistent thing that jumps out when reading about swimbaits, big fish on same, is that a lot of the guys seeing those results are fishing out of 'yaks, small boats, even the bank. Is a big part of it the variety of castring angles available in a small boat? Seems to tie in tightly with the Bill Murphy big bass book, and some of his concepts like fishing uphill.

[gitnby]

13 minutes ago, dtrs5kprs said:

Richy...how much of a role do you think the kayak plays into your swimbait results (as opposed to throwing one from a sparkle barge)? Seems like the most consistent thing that jumps out when reading about swimbaits, big fish on same, is that a lot of the guys seeing those results are fishing out of 'yaks, small boats, even the bank. Is a big part of it the variety of castring angles available in a small boat? Seems to tie in tightly with the Bill Murphy big bass book, and some of his concepts like fishing uphill.

Well, Dave, there goes any chance of you ever getting a boat manufacturer sponsorship? Not even a jersey patch for you!