Fishing uphill again today.

[Flysmallie]

1 hour ago, Johnsfolly said:

I am an music Neanderthal with the idea that all new music ended in 1985.

Not me. I rarely listen to anything old. There's great new music out there if you search for it. You won't hear much of it on the radio though. 

[m&m]

4 hours ago, mixermarkb said:

In all seriousness, the quality of this forum, my radar weather app, and a handful of friends I've made while touring with bands over the years that I use Facebook to stay in touch with are the only things keeping me from trading the smartphone for a dumb phone that only does calls and texts, disconnecting the internet, subscribing to the daily newspaper, and doing my best to avoid technology. 

I'm 42, and I realized that my kids are not getting the quality time with me that I got with my Dad. I loved climbing up on his lap and reading the newspaper funnies as a kid, and then I'd read the rest of the paper as I grew older. Actual words. On actual paper. Face to face time. Not living life through a screen.

Between working concerts and watching most of the crowd watch the show through the camera on their phone so they can post crappy quality videos on social media, and having a 9 year old boy develop a serious Minecraft addiction (if you have a kid that age, you know), I realized that I can't complain about my kids living inside a screen if their example is me living in a screen.  The internet is amazing, but it's seriously every bit as damaging to our culture as it is helpful, if not more. 

Mix, as Debra Barone said to Ray Barone, "OMG, you've grown up." Sounds like you have some fun times ahead with your family. And if you get to fish every now and then it is icing on the cake. 

Mike

[mixermarkb]

Flysmallie, I'm glad you manage technology in a way that doesn't harm your family. My wife and I try very hard to do the same.

However, I still hold that the internet actually does more harm than good. I feel like it has isolated us humans more than it has connected us. We have too often traded face to face time with actual real family and friends that know all of our good and bad and still choose to love us, for online relationships with folks who only see our carefully presented online personas. This has caused a whole new level of keeping up with the Jones, and of people being dissatisfied with their perfectly normal lives, because they are comparing their life to manicured instagram and Facebook posts of "friends" who wean through a dozen pics of their steak dinner to find the perfect one to post to fit their ideal image. 

I also feel like the staggering amount of weapons grade B.S. mixed in with the useful knowledge on nearly any topic from politics to bass fishing has done our society damage as a whole. I think it has contributed highly to the downfall of craftsmanship across the board in our society. Guys like fishinwrech who have learned a trade over the years are losing business to YouTube "how-to" videos, because the internet makes everyone an "expert". We already had a problem in America with instant gratification, and the internet just makes that worse. Don't even get me started with my immediate area of expertise, namely Music. I can rant for hours on what studio technology has done to the art and craft of musicianship, and what file sharing and services like Spotify that don't pay artists anything for their music has done to those of us who work full time in the music industry. 

I'm not saying I don't enjoy so many areas in my life that technology makes easier or better, but I will say on here that I'm really glad I grew up before the internet, and I'm saying to anyone that will listen, to take a week or so break from all things smartphone and internet, and get a little perspective on how these pocket screens change all of our lives. You will probably find like me, that all the change isn't for the better.

 

 

p.s.

 

GET OFF MY LAWN, and TURN THAT CRAP YOU CALL MUSIC DOWN. 

 

Im officially old now. 

 

[Champ188]

9 hours ago, mixermarkb said:

Flysmallie, I'm glad you manage technology in a way that doesn't harm your family. My wife and I try very hard to do the same.

However, I still hold that the internet actually does more harm than good. I feel like it has isolated us humans more than it has connected us. We have too often traded face to face time with actual real family and friends that know all of our good and bad and still choose to love us, for online relationships with folks who only see our carefully presented online personas. This has caused a whole new level of keeping up with the Jones, and of people being dissatisfied with their perfectly normal lives, because they are comparing their life to manicured instagram and Facebook posts of "friends" who wean through a dozen pics of their steak dinner to find the perfect one to post to fit their ideal image. 

I also feel like the staggering amount of weapons grade B.S. mixed in with the useful knowledge on nearly any topic from politics to bass fishing has done our society damage as a whole. I think it has contributed highly to the downfall of craftsmanship across the board in our society. Guys like fishinwrech who have learned a trade over the years are losing business to YouTube "how-to" videos, because the internet makes everyone an "expert". We already had a problem in America with instant gratification, and the internet just makes that worse. Don't even get me started with my immediate area of expertise, namely Music. I can rant for hours on what studio technology has done to the art and craft of musicianship, and what file sharing and services like Spotify that don't pay artists anything for their music has done to those of us who work full time in the music industry. 

I'm not saying I don't enjoy so many areas in my life that technology makes easier or better, but I will say on here that I'm really glad I grew up before the internet, and I'm saying to anyone that will listen, to take a week or so break from all things smartphone and internet, and get a little perspective on how these pocket screens change all of our lives. You will probably find like me, that all the change isn't for the better.

 

 

p.s.

 

GET OFF MY LAWN, and TURN THAT CRAP YOU CALL MUSIC DOWN. 

 

Im officially old now. 

 

Masterfully stated. And a bone worth chewing.

[snagged in outlet 3]

11 hours ago, mixermarkb said:

Flysmallie, I'm glad you manage technology in a way that doesn't harm your family. My wife and I try very hard to do the same.

However, I still hold that the internet actually does more harm than good. I feel like it has isolated us humans more than it has connected us. We have too often traded face to face time with actual real family and friends that know all of our good and bad and still choose to love us, for online relationships with folks who only see our carefully presented online personas. This has caused a whole new level of keeping up with the Jones, and of people being dissatisfied with their perfectly normal lives, because they are comparing their life to manicured instagram and Facebook posts of "friends" who wean through a dozen pics of their steak dinner to find the perfect one to post to fit their ideal image. 

I also feel like the staggering amount of weapons grade B.S. mixed in with the useful knowledge on nearly any topic from politics to bass fishing has done our society damage as a whole. I think it has contributed highly to the downfall of craftsmanship across the board in our society. Guys like fishinwrech who have learned a trade over the years are losing business to YouTube "how-to" videos, because the internet makes everyone an "expert". We already had a problem in America with instant gratification, and the internet just makes that worse. Don't even get me started with my immediate area of expertise, namely Music. I can rant for hours on what studio technology has done to the art and craft of musicianship, and what file sharing and services like Spotify that don't pay artists anything for their music has done to those of us who work full time in the music industry. 

I'm not saying I don't enjoy so many areas in my life that technology makes easier or better, but I will say on here that I'm really glad I grew up before the internet, and I'm saying to anyone that will listen, to take a week or so break from all things smartphone and internet, and get a little perspective on how these pocket screens change all of our lives. You will probably find like me, that all the change isn't for the better.

 

 

p.s.

 

GET OFF MY LAWN, and TURN THAT CRAP YOU CALL MUSIC DOWN. 

 

Im officially old now. 

 

I don't see any of these problems and my daughter is 18 and has grown up with every bit of technology I can supply for her.  I've used this line forever.  "you know it's just the internet, right?"  In fact her group has slowly gotten away from posting anything at all. 

I do however see it in a lot of Facebook junkies who think they are somehow a movie star or something.  Too narcissistic to see the reality that really nobody cares except you.  Heck I missed a family birthday party because the whole thing was done on Facebook and we don't use it.  It was lame party anyway.

I love technology and everything it offers.  Use it wisely grasshopper.

[mixermarkb]

All I'm saying is that milli vanilli got their career ended for lip syncing, and now every "pop" concert, and a whole lot of "country" concerts are lip syncing vocals because the "artist" needed so much auto-tune help in the studio that they can't actually sing their own songs live, without the computers. 

Its an increasingly photoshopped, "fake news", image over substance, disposable over repairable world, and the internet is driving a large part of it. 

Be genunine, support real, spend your money on quality. 

[snagged in outlet 3]

I agree.  I just don't take it so seriously. 

[Flysmallie]

58 minutes ago, mixermarkb said:

and the internet is driving a large part of it. 

The internet isn't doing anything. It's just sitting there waiting to be useful. Society is the one that is screwing it up. 

[Smithvillesteve]

From fishing uphill to Pink Floyd!! Gotta love this forum!!

[mixermarkb]

16 minutes ago, Flysmallie said:

The internet isn't doing anything. It's just sitting there waiting to be useful. Society is the one that is screwing it up. 

I can agree with this. I don't really mean to be blaming the arrow when it's really a problem with the Indian, but lots of folks just simply don't think about the consequences of being plugged in to the information superhighway 24/7. I'm not going full Amish, but they have some things right..