I want to spend WISELY . . . and EFFICIENTLY . . . RkCrawler Or Wiggle Wart???

[aarchdale@coresleep.com]

Thats a great idea, i have mine wrapped around a 2x4.  How deep will that leash reach.  Thanks for sharing

 

[abkeenan]

36 minutes ago, aarchdale@coresleep.com said:

Thats a great idea, i have mine wrapped around a 2x4.  How deep will that leash reach.  Thanks for sharing

 

As deep as whatever leash length you buy. Mine is a 20 footer I think. Can get them 25 feet or even longer. I can't take credit for the idea. I believe I got the idea from, fittingly, Bass Boat Central forums.

[mixermarkb]

I throw warts and rock crawlers on two Falcon Cara Reaction 7' "medium crankers", with lews BB-1reels, in 5:1 gearing, and Sunline Sniper green 12 pound test. The Sunline 12 pound is the diameter of most other 10 pound fluorocarbon, and I found I get better hooksets with 12 vs 10 pound. The Falcons also have a little more backbone than the Loomis crankbait rods they replaced. Part of it was gear, more of it was my crappy skills, but I was having a hard time keeping fish buttoned up when the water got up into the mid/upper 50's. The loomis cranking rods were just too soft to control a solid keeper once the water was warm enough for them to move with some speed. I still sometimes have to crank like a madman with the 5:1 reel to catch up to a fish if they charge for deep water, but moving up to 12 pound line and a cranking rod with a little more backbone has really helped me get the fish stuck and landed. 

I have a Loomis IMX PR-845, which is a 7' Medium/Heavy saltwater popping rod. It's got a pretty soft action, but decent backbone. This gets a Lews SS-1 speed spool in 6.4:1, with either 12 pound Sunline or 12 pound Yozuri Hybrid, and throws Square bills and Traps. 

For summer deep cranks at LOZ and Mark Twain I have two setups, a St. Croix legend tournament "magnum cranker" 7'10" heavy moderate, with a Lews BB-1 in 5:1, with the 12 pound Sunline, and a Falcon Cara Reaction 7'3" "deep runner" with the same BB-1 and line. I'd actually like to have a second one of the St. Croix rods, because it does launch the deep cranks a little farther, but I'd have to sell the Falcon Deep Runner to buy it, and I can't quite bring myself to do that yet, because I really like that rod for a couple of other things. I just wish it had a few more inches of length on it, because I do think it's a little more sensitive than the St. Croix.

For what it's worth, a really great all around cranking rod that can be found pretty cheap used on eBay or the BBC classifieds, is the St. Croix mojo 7' MH moderate graphite rod. It's a great squarebill and wart rod, and with an old used shimano curado 5:1 or a lews 5:1 is a great combo. A buddy wound up for a long cast, and threw mine right into Norfork, with a pre-rap green craw wart for added insult to injury, during a winter bass-o-thon a couple years back. 

[Ham]

9 hours ago, abkeenan said:

As deep as whatever leash length you buy. Mine is a 20 footer I think. Can get them 25 feet or even longer. 

That has been the frustrating part of the dog leash Deal. I like being able to get FB loose from 30 plus FOW and if you not exactly over the bait that requires more string as well. 

I guess I need to carry 2. Shallow and deep versions 

[abkeenan]

31 minutes ago, Ham said:

That has been the frustrating part of the dog leash Deal. I like being able to get FB loose from 30 plus FOW and if you not exactly over the bait that requires more string as well. 

I guess I need to carry 2. Shallow and deep versions 

True. Usually I can get jigs un-hung but if I can't and the lure retriever won't get it I don't mind too much breaking off. At about $3 a jig or so and maybe lose 2 or 3 a day isn't a big deal. Plus I don't have emotional attachment to lead baits with one hook, just the plastic ones with trebles.

[dblades]

12 hours ago, abkeenan said:

Had some requests for the retractable dog leash lure retriever setup. I've posted it here before I believe but it's been a few years. Here it is in all it's glory. The BACON SAVER:

Looks like a twin of my setup.

[vernon]

Do any of you guys use those long, extendable poles that can be used for cleaning windows, eaves, etc. for a lure retriever?  I know they'd take up a heckuva lot more room than the dog leash deal but I have one already and was just wondering.  Seems like it'd be pretty easy to pole a lure loose up to 20 ft. or so.

If so, what do you use for the "retriever" part and how do you attach it?

If nobody does this and it's just another stupid question on my part, please disregard entirely and continue on as if I was never here.

[dtrs5kprs]

4 minutes ago, vernon said:

Do any of you guys use those long, extendable poles that can be used for cleaning windows, eaves, etc. for a lure retriever?  I know they'd take up a heckuva lot more room than the dog leash deal but I have one already and was just wondering.  Seems like it'd be pretty easy to pole a lure loose up to 20 ft. or so.

If so, what do you use for the "retriever" part and how do you attach it?

If nobody does this and it's just another stupid question on my part, please disregard entirely and continue on as if I was never here.

You were right next to mine the other day. It collapses down to about 6' or so. I keep it strapped down on the passenger rod ramp. You could put it in a rod box too.

It has a pigtail deal on the end. I epoxied mine in because it kept wanting to work loose.

For me, it works a lot better than the various "bombs" on a leash, but I rarely crank deeper than 10'. It works about like poking a rod tip at a bait, but with less risk.

Once in a while it will surprise you with a quirk, especially if you are alone.

[abkeenan]

4 minutes ago, vernon said:

Do any of you guys use those long, extendable poles that can be used for cleaning windows, eaves, etc. for a lure retriever?  I know they'd take up a heckuva lot more room than the dog leash deal but I have one already and was just wondering.  Seems like it'd be pretty easy to pole a lure loose up to 20 ft. or so.

If so, what do you use for the "retriever" part and how do you attach it?

If nobody does this and it's just another stupid question on my part, please disregard entirely and continue on as if I was never here.

I've thought about going to the pole style retriever. Probably easier than dealing with cords I'm sure. Most of the models made by Frabill and others have a metal corkscrew attachment at the end. I've looked at Timmy Horton's "Money Pole" model but it costs an arm and a leg. Just an outrageous price for what it is. If it was half the cost he wants I MIGHT think about getting one.

http://timmyhortonmoneypole.com/component/content/?view=featured

 

 

[mixermarkb]

I use the pole type. It just seems easier to me than the cord type, even on the dog leash