What about the ones who don't get caught?

[Chief Grey Bear]

We keep hearing that but the results keep saying otherwise. 

Not arguing, just not seeing any definite proof. 

[MoCarp]

32 minutes ago, Al Agnew said:

"The ENTIRE problem with gigging is the selective targeting of the biggest fish,"  MDC keep saying, that they see no evidence that illegal gigging is harming the population  But it is reducing the population of the biggest fish.  That's our only problem with gigging, but it's a doozy. "

I agree it only takes one or 2 bad apples to crush a stream, 

 

2 hours ago, Chief Grey Bear said:

"Many thousand of miles of fishable water that ain't giggable. "

I don't agree, I used to trap mink on spring creeks, saw many a wade gigger in streams hard to float a tube much less a boat! they used a wheat light spot light, never saw any bass gigged though by the guys I saw, but then again I heard of guys whoopsing

[Chief Grey Bear]

7 hours ago, MoCarp said:

I agree it only takes one or 2 bad apples to crush a stream, 

But it's never happened. There is not one stream in the state that has been striped by giggers. 

7 hours ago, MoCarp said:

I don't agree

Nobody does anymore.

[snagged in outlet 3]

The white dude's mug shot looks like an old corpse photo from the 50's or something. 

[Mitch f]

38 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

The white dude's mug shot looks like an old corpse photo from the 50's or something. 

Also charged him with missing child support....what a surprise!🙁

[MoCarp]

During the 1800's, many animals  and fish were harvested nearly into extinction.  Bison and beaver was almost wiped out. Once plentiful elk, deer, and pronghorn had been reduced to a fraction of their original number. The game fish that where plentiful........ now where hard to come by, bass, crappie and catfish in the south, Trout (Brook) and Atlantic salmon in the east.. To conserve wildlife for future generations to enjoy, wildlife management laws were passed, 

Did you know that in the fish markets of St Louis Blue catfish where common over 150 lbs?

Did you know Carp and brown trout were introduced then to help meet the food needs ?

The first introduction of the brown trout into the United States was by the US Fish Commission in 1883 in Michigan.

The common carp came to the U.S. in 1831  it was stocked widely throughout the United States by the United States Fish Commission as a food fish to help the depleted fish stocks

 

now our near shore fishes (salt water) and commercial fisheries are going through what fresh water went through in the 1880's

habitats are degraded and harvest is maximized....

 

as a boy I grew up fishing the waters around Mobile, Dauphin Island and Gulf Shore was my family stomping grounds, we fished for "Green Trout" and Bream at Flint Creek and Big Creek lake, Dog River, and Paul B Johnson state park...we commonly caught Croakers, they ran from 15-16 inches long to over 20 and 4-5 pounds today 10" is about as big as it gets...why? the boney fish was tasty but with so many others like flounder and specks where numerous.....things have changed..before the tougher regs Reds where almost wiped out.....

 

Like it or not Regs will be getting tougher, Harvest more restricted, because of game hogs it only takes a few to ruin a water I have seen it in my life, in Jasper co, the newly american used to subsist living have been hard on our streams, I wade fished many of our small streams, once great fishing is hard to come by, the county now makes it almost impossible to get to streams with the way they grade the roads to eliminate stream side parking and concentration camp style fence to make walking to the water a great escape event. increasing pressure on the areas with access....

 

I worry about the next generation not fishing at all, because it takes a lot more work to go fishing...all this because of Game Hogging

 

[MoCarp]

do you remember when tuna was so common they fish them like this?

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, Mitch f said:

Also charged him with missing child support....what a surprise!🙁

The fact that his fishing license was revoked indicates that he did indeed purchase one, so you gotta at least give him credit for that.    Once they took his license I guess he figured if he was going fishing anyway then he might as well LOAD UP since he was gonna be in trouble whether he caught anything or not.

 

[MoCarp]

17 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

 

 

fishing gets poor because of this...its easy to blame Common Carp or Buffalo or gar who have been in the waters you fish LONG before dams, ANY fish can be fished down...we as  most of us fish for fun..its ok to take some fish for dinner but only in moderation...some fish can be harvested more than others, Carp included.... but largest fish should go back to keep those better genes...if not we all will be catching the Gary Colemans of the fish world, Thats my Opinion

[BilletHead]

   Boy I can hardly wait to catch a nice stringer of LEGAL to take bass for a fish fry and post it here . No woopsie needed!

BilletHead