Those Europeans........

[MoCarp]

heres a couple the Bfers missed from last Saturday , 21 and 23 right here in OAF territory

my buddy drives down regularly to fish,.... I am sure you have seen us, just don't notice us....thats by design, lest we get our best honey holes shot up!..camo bait buckets olive drab gear are that way for a reason,..

small carp can be easy to catch sometimes, but larger fish over 20# are not so much..the challenge one of the reasons people carp fish

as far as digging worms..never used dug worms for carp..don't like using maggots ether....way to many non-target fish, prob our biggest issue here in the states... 

 

 

[MoCarp]

before you as the answer is NO!..only thing Ill divulge is that its somewhere on Taney,....

BTW trout won't leave theses alone!

[snagged in outlet 3]

What are those?  Image too blurry on phone. 

I saw 2 guys with their bikini clad girl friends bow fishing Femme Osage.  Looked like a lot more fun than sitting alone in the dark playing with that nasty bait you use. 

[BilletHead]

3 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

What are those?  Image too blurry on phone. 

I saw 2 guys with their bikini clad girl friends bow fishing Femme Osage.  Looked like a lot more fun than sitting alone in the dark playing with that nasty bait you use. 

        Looks like sprouted beans to me. I think you need your eyes checked after burning the bikini girls image in your cornea. That or you need reading glasses? 

BilletHead

[BilletHead]

      Two more interesting things I found while searching the benefits and non benefits of this exotic species. First thing is we can possibly make some money with these carp . A real r article fond on the internet and old one but the facts are important,

https://www.idahopress.com/news/carp-for-sale-idfg-considers-paying-fishermen-to-remove-carp/article_e746456a-ce1c-11e0-b6b2-001cc4c002e0.html

    Could cut and paste the whole article but I will let you all see it if you are wanting to maybe make a few extra bucks.

  Then there is this gem. MoCarp talked of nice pristine waters in Europe  that carp inhabit.  Well no so much here and the experts say so. This is from US geological survey page on carp,

https://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/FactSheet.aspx?speciesID=4

   I will just copy and paste a couple of things from here which are a contradiction to the beginning to this thread,

 Ecology: The species generally inhabits lakes, ponds, and the lower sections of rivers (usually with moderately flowing or standing water), but is also known from brackish-water estuaries, backwaters, and bays (Barus et al. 2001). In its native range, the species occurs in coastal areas of the Caspian and Aral Seas (Berg 1964; Barus et al., 2001) as well as the estuaries of large Ukrainian and Russian rivers. Crivelli (1981) reported that the common carp occurred in brackish-water marshes with salinities up to 14 ppt in southern France. In North America, the common carp inhabits brackish and saline coastal waters of several states bordering the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans and Gulf of Mexico (Schwartz 1964; Moyle 2002) as well as the Atlantic and Pacific coasts of Canada (McCrimmon 1968). It has been captured in U.S. waters with salinities as high as 17.6 ppt (Schwartz 1964). In the U.S., the common carp is more abundant in manmade impoundments, lakes, and turbid sluggish streams receiving sewage or agricultural runoff, and less abundant in clear waters or streams with a high gradient (Pflieger 1975; Trautman 1981; Ross 2001; Boschung and Mayden 2004). Pflieger (1975) noted that the common carp tends to concentrate in large numbers where cannery or slaughter-house wastes are emptied into streams.

 

Larval common carp feeds primarily on zooplankton. In its native range, juveniles and adults feed on benthic organisms (e.g., chironomids, gastropods and other larval insects), vegetation, detritus and plankton (e.g., cladocerans, copepods, amphipods, mysids). Feeding habits are similar in the U.S., where the diet is composed of organic detritus (primarily of plant origin), chironomids, small crustaceans, and gastropods (Summerfelt et al. 1971; Eder and Carlson 1977; Panek 1987). The common carp is very active when feeding and its movements often disturb sediments and increase turbidity, causing serious problems in some regions especially where the species is abundant. The species also retards the growth of submerged aquatic vegetation by feeding on and uprooting plants (King and Hunt 1967). Silt resuspension and uprooting of aquatic plants caused by feeding activities can disturb spawning and nursery areas of native fishes (Ross 2001) as well as disrupt feeding of sight-oriented predators, such as bass and sunfish (Panek 1987).

      A bit more,

 

Remarks: Balon (1995) reviewed the origin and history of domestication of common carp in Europe and elsewhere. Several agents of the U.S. Fish Commission documented the early years of common carp propagation and stocking in the United States (e.g., Smiley 1886; Smith 1896; Cole 1905). Although this species was popular in the early 1870s as a food fish, common carp fell into wide disfavor soon after and is now considered a nuisance fish because of its abundance and detrimental effects on aquatic habitats. Trautman (1981) found common carp most abundant in streams enriched with sewage or with substantial runoff from agricultural land, but he reported it to be rare or absent in clear, cold waters, and streams of high gradient. Pflieger (1997) reported that the total weight and value of common carp taken by commercial fishermen in Missouri exceeded that of any other fish. Hartel et al. (1996) noted that more than 20,000 common carp were killed by a bacterial disease over a short period of time in the Merrimack River in the late 1970s. Because common carp have a higher salinity tolerance than most freshwater fishes, Swift et al. (1977) hypothesized that it may be spreading from one coastal stream to another through fresh or nearly fresh coastal waters in the Gulf area during periods of heavy rainfall and run-off, periods when salinities are greatly reduced.

    Some interesting facts here peoples and if you read the whole article you may get bored,

BilletHead

[Flysmallie]

More googled pics that nobody asked to see. 

 

[BilletHead]

2 minutes ago, Flysmallie said:

More googled pics that nobody asked to see. 

 

      I started to post pictures but did not want you to chastise me,

BilletHead

[grizwilson]

Great News

7 hours ago, MoCarp said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Over 105,000 pounds of rough fish was removed from the Wisconsin waterways on Satuday night and Sunday morning" ....Published 3:51 p.m. CT May 23, 2016

http://www.marshfieldnewsherald.com/story/news/2016/05/23/ams-bowfishing-big-30-results/84787512/

Guess I need to google #Nuff Said..." ?????

[MoCarp]

those pics are legit perhaps when I go fishing in a bit Ill hold up a news paper for yah.....those are boiled "hemp seed" no carp don't get a buzz eating them..its the kind they squeeze hemp oil out of..they are sterilized before they are bagged and sold for bird food, health snacks etc..it is supposed that they think they are snails.... never tasted a snail or boiled hemp..but fish go gaga for them...trout pick up our fake maze flavored with the stuff....the few times I have fished Taney or TR at Roaring river Trout can be a nuisance...most time using hemp you catch a nice trout or 3...usually no dinks my brother caught a 6# rainbow that way..he was like 

[MoCarp]

1 hour ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

Looked like a lot more fun than sitting alone in the dark playing with that nasty bait you use. 

who said we were alone?