Larry on new land owner tags and CWD

[fishinwrench]

If LD ever actually read the Bible he would be a staunch athiest and would be spending his time writing about THAT instead.

[fishinwrench]

59 minutes ago, Al Agnew said:

If CWD has killed a bunch of humans, MDC is not the only people hiding the fact.  NO state wildlife agency that I know of has come out and said that.  No agency has said you shouldn't hunt deer.  To be honest, I'm torn...I DO suspect that CWD might be dangerous to humans, and I don't want to eat deer when there's a chance they could transmit it.  As much as I like eating venison, I am not sure I'll hunt deer anymore.  But if this is some great conspiracy as Larry seems to think nearly everything MDC does is, then MDC is only one of many parties in on it.

 

Since every single animal whose meat we consume is not individually tested for CWD then how in the world can anyone point a finger at DEER when someone reportedly dies or becomes ill from a spongiform type virus ?

Is it not safe to pick blackberries either?   How can it be?

The whole CWD thing is just biologist blabber (propaganda for a reason other than the publics welfare), if an animal appears healthy then I'm not afraid to cook it and eat it.   If that mindset kills me then so be it.  

[MoCarp]

8 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

If LD ever actually read the Bible he would be a staunch athiest and would be spending his time writing about THAT instead.

Perhaps you are right but he’s not the only squeaky wheel on the CWD subject 

[MoCarp]

4 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

Since every single animal whose meat we consume is not individually tested for CWD then how in the world can anyone point a finger at DEER when someone reportedly dies or becomes ill from a spongiform type virus ?

It’s not a virus, it’s a rogue protein, we do not totally understand why it goes rogue

[fishinwrench]

Ok, pretend I said "rogue protein" instead of Virus then. 🙄 

The "reason" is likely a result of overpopulation.  To which you could arguably blame enforced seasons/ limits and restricted harvest areas (suburbs), as much as you can blame the confined farming practice.

[MoCarp]

2 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

Ok, pretend I said "rogue protein" instead of Virus then. 🙄 

The "reason" is likely a result of overpopulation.  To which you could arguably blame enforced seasons/ limits and restricted harvest areas (suburbs), as much as you can blame the confined farming practice.

Being a weird sickness, and it’s way to persist in the environment, be taken up in living plants, cooking doesn’t destroy it, and a incubation period if you will of years to decades makes this a scary situation, we may see total  Eradication of some areas, since the man died from eating squirrel brains, the whole prion situation going to be here a while 

[tjm]

Scrapie in sheep and goats has been studied since 1732 and we still don't know a lot about it, yet people still eat mutton and goat. One of the factors that make it difficult to determine causes is the long incubation period of these diseases; if you are exposed today and it takes 4-5 years to get sick from it, will you recall the very meal or event at which the exposure took place? How many thousands/millions of people have already died from prion disease that were just listed as death from natural causes? We don't have a clue because no one normally  tests for prions.  Prion disease can be hereditary as in Fatal Familial  Insomnia and prions may be the cause of Alzheimer and Parkinson's.  More often cannibalism is involved as  kuru or the feeding of sheep protein to the mad cows. Science is better today than it ever has been and DNA  work has determined where the gene responsible for making prions is located, so there is progress/hope.

[Quillback]

CWD is way, way, way down on the list of things that I think might kill me.  As a matter of fact it's not even on the list.

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, Quillback said:

CWD is way, way, way down on the list of things that I think might kill me.  As a matter of fact it's not even on the list.

No kidding!  

Let's put all our attention on curing cancer, Then we can worry about CWD

[MoCarp]

3 hours ago, tjm said:

Scrapie in sheep and goats has been studied since 1732 and we still don't know a lot about it, yet people still eat mutton and goat. One of the factors that make it difficult to determine causes is the long incubation period of these diseases; if you are exposed today and it takes 4-5 years to get sick from it, will you recall the very meal or event at which the exposure took place? How many thousands/millions of people have already died from prion disease that were just listed as death from natural causes? We don't have a clue because no one normally  tests for prions.  Prion disease can be hereditary as in Fatal Familial  Insomnia and prions may be the cause of Alzheimer and Parkinson's.  More often cannibalism is involved as  kuru or the feeding of sheep protein to the mad cows. Science is better today than it ever has been and DNA  work has determined where the gene responsible for making prions is located, so there is progress/hope.

Some studies are suggesting “ dementia” based deaths diets related, some may be more genetically vulnerable, yet since no-one was doing much study or testing 1986 was the 1st real outbreak in modern times (mad cow disease ) the incubation time is decades, we all know someone who has been afflicted by   Alzheimer’s, who knows if it was from prions in beef, venison or wheat or corn from  contaminated by deer or cattle afflicted by prions, now a great deal of effort is being applied to see patterns.

Some CWD  Deniers conspiracy theorists suggest it Is a smokescreen for the vegan agenda 🙄

 

1 hour ago, Quillback said:

CWD is way, way, way down on the list of things that I think might kill me.  As a matter of fact it's not even on the list.

I hope it’s not as bad as it’s potential suggests, but you can smoke, expose yourself to chemicals, heavy metals it’s like playing Yahtzee with extra dice you die when you hit so many 🎲 It’s an odds thing