Frustrations

[jdmidwest]

Fish have fed the masses since before Biblical Times.  Now they have become livestock managed by the Government Herders.

I toss crappie back when I catch them as a bycatch, I am not a crappie fisher.  It is my decision, not something forced on to me by others.  Catch and release is my decision.

Many years ago, we fished and eat our catches.  I enjoyed those meals.  But I realized that catching was more fun than eating.  So I kept less and less of all species.  But still they decline.  Trouble is, the Herders are promoting the fishing part to increase the larders that make them fatter.  So now, much to my dismay at the attempts of my conservation methods, my fishing keeps declining.  Can't really blame the ones that keep legal fish.  Blame the herders that push them to buy more licenses.

[jdmidwest]

And the herders that fail to enforce the rules of their licenses.

[Flysmallie]

We ran across a big group of these guys a couple of years ago on the stretch. They were minnow fishing and really weren't very good at it. The weirdest thing was we tried talking to a few of them and the ones that would speak back could barely speak English. It was a really odd encounter. 

[ness]

On 7/29/2019 at 9:47 AM, Flysmallie said:

We ran across a big group of these guys a couple of years ago on the stretch. They were minnow fishing and really weren't very good at it. The weirdest thing was we tried talking to a few of them and the ones that would speak back could barely speak English. It was a really odd encounter. 

There's a lot of folks in the Ozarks that can barely speak English. At least not the dialect I speak  

As far as Mennonite and Amish -- they often speak 'Pennsylvania Dutch' which is a dialect of German with some English mixed in. There's a community of Amish in and around Jamesport, MO and we visit occasionally. The Amish, in general, are reluctant to speak to outsiders. Amish merchants will talk in English about as much as necessary but not a lot more, and they have a noticeable accent. Not sure if they speak English at home. Women rarely talk to visitors and kids never do, in my experience. 

Out and about it's kinda hard to know who's who. Old Order Amish and Old Order Mennonites both avoid technology and dress plain -- muted colors, always a beard and hat on men, bonnets on women. There are lots of Mennonites in rural KS -- presumably not Old Order -- and you'll see them driving cars, shopping, etc. They'll have more colorful but still plain clothes and seem to interact more freely with others. 

 

[Flysmallie]

The odd part wasn't really their speech as much as their manners. Some were very leery of us while others seemed to want to talk. They were all friendly though.

Back when I managed an auto paint store I had a customer that was Amish. Jonas Schwartz. Great guy with a great family. He would come in once a month or so and bring his wife and kids. They may have been a bit more laid back because he caught a lot of grief from his wife and she enjoyed dishing it out. Never knew her name, she simply introduced herself as Mrs. Jonas Schwartz. 

Jonas built and painted buggies. When I asked him how he applied the paint he said he sprayed it. But I knew he didn't have electricity so I asked how his compressor worked. He had it rigged up to a bicycle and when ever he was ready to paint he put one of the kids on there. May not have been the best way to get it done and it didn't really produce enough pressure to atomize paint correctly but the paint jobs when done would rival most show cars. Sure miss that guy and his family. 

And they loved to fish. Especially his wife. We swapped fishing stories quite often. 

[fishinwrench]

I have quite a few Amish/modern Mennonite customers, they aren't supposed to own boats....but they are allowed to be PARTNERS with someone who does.  All are good people with very polite wives and children, and they always pay with cash.   😊

Of all the religious lifestyles out there, Amish is the only one I admire and have deep respect for.

[oneshot]

Well I like Redhorse but will keep Catfish, Goggle Eye and Crappie.

Found I don’t care for Spoonbill.

oneshot

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, oneshot said:

Found I don’t care for Spoonbill

Me either.  And neither do the guys at MDC who decided to spend millions of our dollars on them.  They'd rather eat spaghetti. 🤔

[Johnsfolly]

Almost every Friday for over 5 years my wife and Livie would go with a friend and her daughter to the Amish community in Sturgeon MO north of Columbia. Her friend is allergic to almost everything that you can think of and many other things that she is still finding out that she is allergic. She has gone up there for over 10 years. They would buy produce, baked goods, etc. We even owned a cow every other Friday to get its raw milk. Since they are not legally able to sell raw milk, we paid for all of the cow's feed etc and in exchange we got all milk produced that day. Over those years they became good friends with several families. In our experience the Amish are very private people that some do somewhat resent the English attitudes towards them. Once they know you they are very friendly and accepting. For well over a year there were many folks that thought that my wife and friend were a cute lesbian couple😌. We did like the good produce at really good prices and much better deals on common vegetables than the overpriced farmer's market produce. It did get to the point where we were being asked what we would like them to plant the next year.

[oneshot]

We was friends to many Old Order Mennonites in Lead Mine.

Like I told them I considered them as anyone else just different beliefs.

oneshot