Cardiac Hill

[snagged in outlet 3]

She says they find the bare tag but the fish carcass is gone which means the are not being harvested by anglers.   Couldn't you catch one and pull the tag and keep the fish???  Or am I missing something??

[ness]

3 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

She says they find the bare tag but the fish carcass is gone which means the are not being harvested by anglers.   Couldn't you catch one and pull the tag and keep the fish???  Or am I missing something??

That's exactly what I thought. Can't really draw that conclusion from a found tag. 

[jfrith]

Wow, that is quite the mortality rate in such a short amount of time. Would love to know exactly how they are dying.

Thanks for sharing this, snagged in outlet 3.
 

 

[snagged in outlet 3]

19 minutes ago, ness said:

That's exactly what I thought. Can't really draw that conclusion from a found tag. 

I replied asking about that, @ness.  I'll post up any answers.

[Johnsfolly]

25 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

She says they find the bare tag but the fish carcass is gone which means the are not being harvested by anglers.   Couldn't you catch one and pull the tag and keep the fish???  Or am I missing something??

If the fish was poached I would suspect that the tag could have been removed. I don't know if they are using internal tags or external ones. Seems that external ones could be easily removed. The fish would only have to be gutted to remove the internal tags as well. I would think that if they were gutted that they may find a bunch of tags in one spot.

[snagged in outlet 3]

7 minutes ago, Johnsfolly said:

If the fish was poached I would suspect that the tag could have been removed. I don't know if they are using internal tags or external ones. Seems that external ones could be easily removed. The fish would only have to be gutted to remove the internal tags as well. I would think that if they were gutted that they may find a bunch of tags in one spot.

I asked her about that and qualified my question by saying I don't know how the tags or telemetry work.  We'll see what she says.

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, ness said:

That's exactly what I thought. Can't really draw that conclusion from a found tag. 

Seems to me that they will take any road that doesn't lead to an illegal gigging conclusion.    Alien obduction isn't beyond consideration first.  

Not sure why they feel the need to defend it so agressively....but boy they sure enough do.  The tag gets ripped off with a pair of rusty needle nose pliers...."ah, some critter has chewed on it".     

Whatever 🙄

[snagged in outlet 3]

Her latest reply.  
 

It is an assumption based on where the tags were (in the stream next to logs; these were not locations that someone cleaning fish would walk to or set up a cleaning station and leave the carcass pile - most anglers harvesting fish would have them on a stringer and take them to a convenient location to clean them - away from the stream and/or back home in their vehicle, and the tag would have gone with the fish, not remained in the stream. Also, we've been monitoring the gut piles from the park and did not find any tags there.)  It is possible that a poacher could have removed the tag and tossed it on the bank immediately after catching the fish, but they'd have to cut the tag out of the fish which would take a bit of effort. 

Much of what we're inferring from our observations could be interpreted a few different ways, but this is allowing us to see more of what's happening than past studies. 

Jen

 

[45acp]

Any of you guys put your trout guts in a trash bag and take them home?

Me neither...

[fishinwrench]

7 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

 It is possible that a poacher could have removed the tag and tossed it on the bank immediately after catching the fish, but they'd have to cut the tag out of the fish which would take a bit of effort.

I betcha I could show her how to remove it pretty effortlessly.  😉