Mitch f Posted May 9, 2020 Posted May 9, 2020 17 hours ago, Al Agnew said: Ill counter that with this...read carefully and note the links to sources. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QwU4jcRw-qb77BLCLs99af05S1mL2E2vUz2x2M1396U/mobilebasic I don’t doubt there are credible sources on both sides. The funny thing about all this is she is not the only one saying this. They will immediately get labeled as an anti-Vaxxer though. I have a long list of things I could copy and paste as well. But honestly I don’t really have time to go through all the sources individually and methodically. Another thing, do you really believe all these debunking and fact checkers are legit? fishinwrench 1 "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
fishinwrench Posted May 9, 2020 Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Mitch f said: Another thing, do you really believe all these debunking and fact checkers are legit? This is why it SHOULD be important for them to clear their name, and stop the "crazy conspiracy theories" once and for all. If there are truly no facts to back up the claims then why aren't they attacking the ones spreading "UNTRUTHS" to the tax payers? Get on Facebook and tell everyone in your town that the local Sheriff and Judge are gangbanging your wife at gunpoint regularly, and see how long it is before they come for your @$$.
liphunter Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 Anyone heard any news about when Missouri will start requiring fishing permits again? Luck is where preparation meets opportunity...... Or you could just flip a coin???
Terrierman Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 7 hours ago, fishinwrench said: That depends on whether you are the Plantiff or the Defendant. Y'all are sidestepping the whole debate because you don't want to admit that I made a good point. Fauchi and HHS don't need to go "find a lawyer"....they have a team of them that they meet with weekly. So. I'm guessing you've filed a few or many suits, briefs and so on and have a briefcase full of of experience with being plaintiff and/or defendant, You made no point. None. Not one point.
fishinwrench Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Terrierman said: You made no point. None. Not one point. Sure I did. And so did the gal in that video. And so did the makers of Zietgiest. And so did the makers of Loose Change. And so did Christopher Hitchens, and Sam Harris, and Penn Jillette, and Matt Dillahunty.... Hell, even bonehead Jesse Ventura makes some good points. You're just not a free thinker. Too weak to handle the truth maybe. I dunno. You're not alone though, so take comfort in that. ✌️😊
Mitch f Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, liphunter said: Anyone heard any news about when Missouri will start requiring fishing permits again? Good question, I think it’s back to being mandatory for a couple of weeks now. Actually after April 15th, I think. liphunter 1 "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Al Agnew Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Mitch f said: I don’t doubt there are credible sources on both sides. The funny thing about all this is she is not the only one saying this. They will immediately get labeled as an anti-Vaxxer though. I have a long list of things I could copy and paste as well. But honestly I don’t really have time to go through all the sources individually and methodically. Another thing, do you really believe all these debunking and fact checkers are legit? Yes, IF they let you link to the source material they used to fact check. Most do. This is one thing that drives me nuts. Way too many people never even go to the fact checkers, because they either don't trust them and think THEY are biased, or they don't care, they'll believe what they want to believe. I'd say the vast majority of people in America that frequent the internet ONLY go to sites that tell them what they want to hear and want to be true. Not only do they never get information that contradicts what they want to believe, but they only get THEIR side's version of what the other side thinks or believes, which is almost always a distorted or even false representation of the other side. So we have all these people who are convinced that people who don't think the way they do are either stupid or evil. We know each other well, and we both know neither one of us is evil or stupid, we just have different world views and ideas on some subjects. But to all too many conservatives, liberal ideas are evil and liberal people are the enemy, and vice versa. Terrierman 1
Al Agnew Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 3 hours ago, fishinwrench said: This is why it SHOULD be important for them to clear their name, and stop the "crazy conspiracy theories" once and for all. If there are truly no facts to back up the claims then why aren't they attacking the ones spreading "UNTRUTHS" to the tax payers? Get on Facebook and tell everyone in your town that the local Sheriff and Judge are gangbanging your wife at gunpoint regularly, and see how long it is before they come for your @$$. It's a no-win situation for them. If they ignore the people like this woman, they give her free rein to smear them. But if they go after her, people will say that the big bad government or big bad corporation is bullying this little person and since they have deep pockets for high priced attorneys, of course they are going to win.
Mitch f Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Al Agnew said: I'd say the vast majority of people in America that frequent the internet ONLY go to sites that tell them what they want to hear and want to be true. It works both ways and I’m glad you put, and vice versa on the end of the last sentence. Everyone has a personal bias, everyone. no exceptions. BilletHead 1 "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
ColdWaterFshr Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Mitch f said: Everyone has a personal bias, everyone. no exceptions. Truth is what we all seek. You seem to twist science into an opinion piece, where everyone is entitled to voice their set of facts, no matter how flawed, and that it deserves a voice. It doesn’t! This is Trumps Achilles heel. A man full of opinions and hunches, completely untethered from the scientific method or any of its principles, and we don’t even have to go to that dark corner of his ethical and moral standards. But back to this idea and/or notion of truth. Where do we find it in this administration? It’s been a train wreck of denial, blame, self-praise, attempts at distraction, and fluctuating endorsements of conspiracy theories, absence of any organized plan (Jared), abandonment of their own phased reopening plan, an aborted plan to dissolve the “task force”... only after backlash, and don’t forget abdication of ANY responsibility— afterall, the cupboards were bare in January...., and then the shift to say the states were unprepared. And that is just the last 2 months! Let’s not talk about all the well documented warnings, gutting of the CDC, WAY before January.
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