Conspiracy Theories!......Have at it!

[ColdWaterFshr]

2 hours ago, MOPanfisher said:

Governments basic MO is to attempt.to undermine, subvert or more often use the constitution to benefit their ends.  Nothing new.

Please provide examples.  Need more popcorn over here in aisle 6 please!

[Mitch f]

Mattis acts like it’s a peaceful and wholesome protest....as Cities are burning across America. “A small number of lawbreakers” ya right

[Al Agnew]

Seems like this has happened more than once...Trump appoints some guy to some post.  Trump supporters: "He's a great guy; good choice!"  Then he starts to disagree with Trump.  "Well, maybe he ain't such a great guy."  He resigns or gets resigned.  "Nope, knew he wasn't a great guy."  He criticizes Trump later.  "That sucker is a horrible guy.  He should be in jail."

  

[Mitch f]

28 minutes ago, Al Agnew said:

Seems like this has happened more than once...Trump appoints some guy to some post.  Trump supporters: "He's a great guy; good choice!"  Then he starts to disagree with Trump.  "Well, maybe he ain't such a great guy."  He resigns or gets resigned.  "Nope, knew he wasn't a great guy."  He criticizes Trump later.  "That sucker is a horrible guy.  He should be in jail."

  

I don’t disagree with you Al, but the left wasn’t too happy with “Mad Dog” Mattis at first either. As soon as he turns against Trump, now he’s described in the article as the “Esteemed” General. Both him and Bolton are still good guys in my book though. But I’m not sure where  Mattis is coming up with this crap while all the looting and burning is going on. Pretty dumb

[ColdWaterFshr]

16 minutes ago, Al Agnew said:

Seems like this has happened more than once...Trump appoints some guy to some post.  Trump supporters: "He's a great guy; good choice!"  Then he starts to disagree with Trump.  "Well, maybe he ain't such a great guy."  He resigns or gets resigned.  "Nope, knew he wasn't a great guy."  He criticizes Trump later.  "That sucker is a horrible guy.  He should be in jail."

  

Bingo! 

And if you remember, Mad Dog Mattis was a radical and concerning selection at the outset of this administration .  Now we know that he is possibly one the “adults in the room”.   Another clue as to how far off the ledge we are.

[Deadstream]

Loons in the room.

[N9BOW]

Hmm.. Looks like those HCQ haters (WHO, MSM, TDS derranged) may now have to,.... and have been forced to back peddle...but not without attempting to whitewash the hysteria they mustered...But hey just another conspiracy......

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/researchers-retract-botched-anti-hcq-study-which-caused-who-halt-trials

 

and this????? more cannon fodder??? for the HCQ hand flailers. ...sorry just feeling spicy tonight and oiling and hugging my AR in my bunker for those triggered by such things 

 

 

[N9BOW]

21 hours ago, Al Agnew said:

Seems like this has happened more than once...Trump appoints some guy to some post.  Trump supporters: "He's a great guy; good choice!"  Then he starts to disagree with Trump.  "Well, maybe he ain't such a great guy."  He resigns or gets resigned.  "Nope, knew he wasn't a great guy."  He criticizes Trump later.  "That sucker is a horrible guy.  He should be in jail."

  

Yes agreed on all fronts.. BUT... what I think you and many other may fail to see in that his supporters are a group of people saying this is a plain speaking guy, who made a choice for his cabinet, etc.... and because "he's like me" (Kinda..but not, I'm not a billionaire) "thinks like me" and actually is doing what he said he would do when canvasing for the role of POTUS,  I give him the benefit of the doubt..

Why? Because there has never been anyone who even remotely has been FOR me. (other than talking out one side of their mouth).....he gets me and what I stand for and want for my country. (worts and all) I/we can look past his worts and manner of speaking because the alternative is someone who cant put together a sentence without a teleprompter or trips over their tonge and forgets what they were "TOLD" they should say based on some polling number or has their hair coiffed in a pleasing swooning manner.

So...he picked the guy!....... And I think hey, I trust him, so I trust the pick... (Why? again because he is not a politician!!!!!....AND LOTS OF FOLKS FORGET THAT!!!) sometimes too conveniently for sake of making their point in simplistic terms..

There is nothing simple about a disrupting technology (think internet), or a "politician" (Trump is a lowercase "politician" a Newb...Not groomed)... He relies on "Recommendations" given (and yes by snakes in the grass) and makes the best choice with the info he has and his gut. sometime it works and sometimes it don't. (yes he has an issue with admitting he's wrong, but to do so,..... would bring down the MSM apparatus more so than it does every single day for the past 3.5 years) so I would not admit it either!!!!!!. He use it to expose the hypocracy...which he seems to do with great ease.

Anyway, Snakes in the grass whisper things in people ear all the time especially Politics... So what was good today turns rotten to the core down the road, because there was always a worm hidden... I dont fault him for that, and I think you see others change their opinion on the "Pick" because we see the reality that POLITICS is nothing but WORMS hidden in the apple.... Nice and shiny on the outside but disgusting and revolting once you see the inside.

Just MHO.

[Al Agnew]

3 hours ago, N9BOW said:

Yes agreed on all fronts.. BUT... what I think you and many other may fail to see in that his supporters are a group of people saying this is a plain speaking guy, who made a choice for his cabinet, etc.... and because "he's like me" (Kinda..but not, I'm not a billionaire) "thinks like me" and actually is doing what he said he would do when canvasing for the role of POTUS,  I give him the benefit of the doubt..

Why? Because there has never been anyone who even remotely has been FOR me. (other than talking out one side of their mouth).....he gets me and what I stand for and want for my country. (worts and all) I/we can look past his worts and manner of speaking because the alternative is someone who cant put together a sentence without a teleprompter or trips over their tonge and forgets what they were "TOLD" they should say based on some polling number or has their hair coiffed in a pleasing swooning manner.

So...he picked the guy!....... And I think hey, I trust him, so I trust the pick... (Why? again because he is not a politician!!!!!....AND LOTS OF FOLKS FORGET THAT!!!) sometimes too conveniently for sake of making their point in simplistic terms..

There is nothing simple about a disrupting technology (think internet), or a "politician" (Trump is a lowercase "politician" a Newb...Not groomed)... He relies on "Recommendations" given (and yes by snakes in the grass) and makes the best choice with the info he has and his gut. sometime it works and sometimes it don't. (yes he has an issue with admitting he's wrong, but to do so,..... would bring down the MSM apparatus more so than it does every single day for the past 3.5 years) so I would not admit it either!!!!!!. He use it to expose the hypocracy...which he seems to do with great ease.

Anyway, Snakes in the grass whisper things in people ear all the time especially Politics... So what was good today turns rotten to the core down the road, because there was always a worm hidden... I dont fault him for that, and I think you see others change their opinion on the "Pick" because we see the reality that POLITICS is nothing but WORMS hidden in the apple.... Nice and shiny on the outside but disgusting and revolting once you see the inside.

Just MHO.

I'll respond to this and then I'm done.  If Trump "thinks like me", then a heck of a lot of people in this country are huge liars.  

What is he doing that is what he said he would do?  Building a wall?  That's about the only thing he's really tried to get done, except for things that ANY Republican president with a Republican Congress would have gotten done.  We'll ignore for the moment the hyperbole about Mexico paying for the wall.  The one huge thing that I think epitomizes Trump promises and following through is when he clearly stated, as one of his major campaign planks, that HE had this terrific health care plan to replace Obamacare that was going to be far better and EVERYBODY would love it.  Then he got elected.  And it soon became abundantly obvious that he didn't have one iota of a plan ("health care is HARD") and was hoping for the Republican Congress to come up with one he could sign and take credit for.  And when they couldn't get it done (because...health care IS hard), that whole campaign promise went away completely.

Remember the whole "drain the swamp" thing?  Still a lot of alligators, and some new ones that he brought in and they got in trouble.  Snakes in the grass in politics?  Hey, you said yourself he's not a politician, so why would he listen to the Washington insiders...or, alternatively, if he's following really bad advice, doesn't that say something about who he chooses to listen to?

[fishinwrench]

26 minutes ago, Al Agnew said:

I'll respond to this and then I'm done.  If Trump "thinks like me", then a heck of a lot of people in this country are huge liars.  

What is he doing that is what he said he would do?  Building a wall?  That's about the only thing he's really tried to get done, except for things that ANY Republican president with a Republican Congress would have gotten done.  We'll ignore for the moment the hyperbole about Mexico paying for the wall.  The one huge thing that I think epitomizes Trump promises and following through is when he clearly stated, as one of his major campaign planks, that HE had this terrific health care plan to replace Obamacare that was going to be far better and EVERYBODY would love it.  Then he got elected.  And it soon became abundantly obvious that he didn't have one iota of a plan ("health care is HARD") and was hoping for the Republican Congress to come up with one he could sign and take credit for.  And when they couldn't get it done (because...health care IS hard), that whole campaign promise went away completely.

Remember the whole "drain the swamp" thing?  Still a lot of alligators, and some new ones that he brought in and they got in trouble.  Snakes in the grass in politics?  Hey, you said yourself he's not a politician, so why would he listen to the Washington insiders...or, alternatively, if he's following really bad advice, doesn't that say something about who he chooses to listen to?

Al, our president is in this game to win....and we are going to win too..

Nobody can sit down at a game table where everyone is cheating their asses off, and win without doing a little cheating themselves.    

Get over the fact that he isn't playing by the rules. NOBODY is.  Do you want to win this game, or not?  

The man isn't a loser, he doesn't quit until he wins.  I don't give a crap how he does it, but I'm supporting the dude because he's a real person that has a real reason to care about this country and its people.  He will get another term, and then his son will follow.  The Trump family are good people.  And they are successful people.  They get $#!t done.