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3 hours ago, bfishn said:

I've caught several dozen stripers from 10-25lbs fishing cut shad on the bottom with a std slip sinker catfish rig (from the bank), so I know they will eat off the bottom. (One caveat, the shad must be uber-fresh, day old or frozen won't even get a tap). At the particular time and place I do it, the cut shad outfishes live shad several times over. I've been called numerous names when telling this story, so I understand if you don't believe it, but I did it 10 years in a row, so it's not a fluke.

Now that you mention it, I have caught hybrids while drifting for cats with cutbait.    It was not anchored to the bottom in either case.....but ok.   

3 hours ago, nomolites said:

I catch hundreds every year on LOZ bouncing spoons.  Expand your horizons.

Mike

I have also, but that's a bit different than crawling something (crawdad imitation) on the bottom.  Not saying it can't be done, but that's definitely not among the best ways to load the boat with them.  Are you saying that they take the jigging spoon for a crawdad? 

 

Fish for them however you want, by all means, I don't care.   I've just never known either species to be big crawdad scavengers like y'all are talking about.  

Posted
4 hours ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

Wow, those whites down there are far more advanced than any fish I've ever heard of.😁   Probably why I can't catch them....

My intention was to imply the exact opposite, so I don't know how you got THERE.  

All of my White bass boxes are loaded with shad/baitfish imitators.  Not a single crawdad style jig/fly one. 

Bring your crawdad lures, or even live crawdads for that matter, and I'll let you have the front of the boat all day.   If you can school me on whites/hybrids/stripers by fishing crawdad style bugs along the bottom I'll buy you dinner.   That's basically all I'm saying.   If they are truly known to focus heavily on grubbing for crawdads then you SHOULD have no problem outfishing me.  

Posted
1 hour ago, fishinwrench said:

My intention was to imply the exact opposite, so I don't know how you got THERE.  

All of my White bass boxes are loaded with shad/baitfish imitators.  Not a single crawdad style jig/fly one. 

Bring your crawdad lures, or even live crawdads for that matter, and I'll let you have the front of the boat all day.   If you can school me on whites/hybrids/stripers by fishing crawdad style bugs along the bottom I'll buy you dinner.   That's basically all I'm saying.   If they are truly known to focus heavily on grubbing for crawdads then you SHOULD have no problem outfishing me.  

You misunderstood me.  You said they "choose".  Like a white bass has the capability to reason.  But hey, you're the resident biologist...😁

Posted
7 hours ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

You misunderstood me.  You said they "choose".  Like a white bass has the capability to reason.  But hey, you're the resident biologist...😁

They do have the capability to choose.   Whether done by instinct or otherwise.  I can point out baits that WILL NOT catch them.  If they didn't have the capability to choose then it wouldn't matter what you threw or how you worked it.    

Even YOU could catch a mess of them. 😅

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