Crappie, 10-7

[olfishead]

14 minutes ago, MOPanfisher said:

Big fish are older, thus they are wearing masks so they don't cath covid, can't bite with a mask on.

Another theory, They are smart enough to go deep so they won't have to listen to all the campaign adds and are so sick of all the lies that they won't bite. (Not going into by which party, just saying for a friend.)

[MOPanfisher]

1 hour ago, olfishead said:

Another theory, They are smart enough to go deep so they won't have to listen to all the campaign adds and are so sick of all the lies that they won't bite. (Not going into by which party, just saying for a friend.)

Dang, how deep would they have to go to get away from the ads.  Lucky fish.

[olfishead]

On 10/11/2020 at 3:11 AM, MoCarp said:

I remember some lake spawn northern walleyes were acquired from a northern state traded for turkeys if I remember back in the 80s to take advantage of more spawning habitat available....they found that shocking fish at the dam caused fish to abandon spawning and they then decided to stock mass quantities About then....I also think an effort to enhance LMB fishing like stocking copper nose bluegills more brush piles hurt the SMB fishery....smallies are not near as common as they were in the 80s

I'm not sure who you got that information from, but I was highly involved with sampling and collection of walleye broodstock in the 80s. We never determined that shocking had any negative effect on spawning. The collection of walleye broodstock was shifted exclusively to Warsaw because of the better densities of fish and closer proximity to Blind Pony Hatchery where the fingerlings were raised at that time. The increased walleye stocking was just due to the designation of Stockton as the flagship walleye lake in a new statewide walleye plan. Director Conley was a big proponent of a  strong walleye program.

 

[MoCarp]

41 minutes ago, olfishead said:

I'm not sure who you got that information from, but I was highly involved with sampling and collection of walleye broodstock in the 80s. We never determined that shocking had any negative effect on spawning. The collection of walleye broodstock was shifted exclusively to Warsaw because of the better densities of fish and closer proximity to Blind Pony Hatchery where the fingerlings were raised at that time. The increased walleye stocking was just due to the designation of Stockton as the flagship walleye lake in a new statewide walleye plan. Director Conley was a big proponent of a  strong walleye program.

 

I think I read it in the MDC publication same place that told of stocking silversides and copper nose bluegills,....

also the planting of submerge  weed beds 

I have slept since then and it was 30 ish years ago

i will also note fishing changed when they started pumping water to Springfield... wonder if it changed the thermocline dynamics... water seems clearer or not as much plankton as I remember ....perhaps less chicken caca spread on pastures? IDK 

trying to remember when the tiger muskies quit showing up 

[MoCarp]

Every fall someone would pick up a ‘ski in price branch area of the lake....Seems more largemouth in the lake than in the 80s-90s

something is off 

genetics, forage, Fishing harvest pressure

plenty of shad in the lake...flop out a light at night....perhaps fish spend more calories than they should chasing shad only forage?

used to be a healthy mayfly population unsure if any benthic insect study has been done 

more diverse fish populations can’t be a bad thing

 

[MrGiggles]

44 minutes ago, MoCarp said:

I think I read it in the MDC publication same place that told of stocking silversides and copper nose bluegills,....

also the planting of submerge  weed beds 

I have slept since then and it was 30 ish years ago

i will also note fishing changed when they started pumping water to Springfield... wonder if it changed the thermocline dynamics... water seems clearer or not as much plankton as I remember ....perhaps less chicken caca spread on pastures? IDK 

trying to remember when the tiger muskies quit showing up 

There was one posted on Facebook not long ago. Of course that's Facebook, take it for what it's worth.

There was also one caught at Caplinger that was posted here a few years ago.

[straw hat]

58 minutes ago, MoCarp said:

I think I read it in the MDC publication same place that told of stocking silversides and copper nose bluegills,....

also the planting of submerge  weed beds 

I have slept since then and it was 30 ish years ago

i will also note fishing changed when they started pumping water to Springfield... wonder if it changed the thermocline dynamics... water seems clearer or not as much plankton as I remember ....perhaps less chicken caca spread on pastures? IDK 

trying to remember when the tiger muskies quit showing up 

MoCarp, that is exactly how I remember that as well. 

[MoCarp]

5 hours ago, MrGiggles said:

There was one posted on Facebook not long ago. Of course that's Facebook, take it for what it's worth.

There was also one caught at Caplinger that was posted here a few years ago.

Pure not tigers

[olfishead]

4 hours ago, MoCarp said:

Pure not tigers

Tiger muskies were Stocked in Stockton around 1972-73, very few showed up in angler's creel and very few reports of them being caught. So, MDC discontinued stocking them. Muskies stocked in Pomme escape thru the dam into Truman and occasionally get caught in Lake of the Ozarks  and Truman. I know of none that have been caught in Stockton. 

[Dutch]

51 minutes ago, olfishead said:

Tiger muskies were Stocked in Stockton around 1972-73, very few showed up in angler's creel and very few reports of them being caught. So, MDC discontinued stocking them. Muskies stocked in Pomme escape thru the dam into Truman and occasionally get caught in Lake of the Ozarks  and Truman. I know of none that have been caught in Stockton. 

I was talking with a kayak angler a couple of weeks ago at Bait Masters.  He was heading to Aldrich.  During our conversation he said that he had caught and released a muskie up in the Little Sac this summer.  He said it drug his yak all over the place before he got it landed.