Saturday 17th - MoYak Winter Series

[fshndoug]

I am pretty sure my Boston Whaler is better suited to not turning over in the wind and besides I try to have someone in the boat with me instead of being by myself.

[Bassin4fun]

16 hours ago, Bass Yakker said:

Hopefully Mr.  Bassin4fun is using a good drysuit, PFD, has a ditch bag with him and maybe a backup radio in case the cellphone doesn't work.  Utilizing these things will drastically improve your safety in cold water/weather situations.  If you search "cold water Chad Hoover" on the youtubes he has some good videos about it.

 

I take a dry bag packed with a change of clothes including socks and thermals. I also have a packable fleece jacket, beanie, and gloves in there and a lighter and other tools to start a fire and to find my way if my phone is no longer working. I am using a phone that has GPS on and it is tethered to my pfd and I always have my pfd on while in my yak (regardless of the temps). I don't stand up in my yak once on the water when it is colder than 70F in the water. There is definitely risk involved. I try to mitigate that risk and I also pray to God for my safety before every trip out. I let my wife know wher I am launching and at what time I will be home. I text her when I get on the water and when I get off the water. I do this when I take my boat as well. My yak has her contact info on it on a very visible sticker if it is ever found without me in it. I may eventually get a drysuit. I do have a handheld marine radio...although, I haven't taken that with me on the yak. I will start doing that too. During tourneys, we have to check in/out using the app on our phone which also tracks your location via GPS...or you are supposed to text tourney director. I appreciate the concern. It is a valid point to be made.

[fshndoug]

I am pretty sure my Boston Whaler is better suited to not turning over in the wind and besides I try to have someone in the boat with me instead of being by myself. It seems as if you have a premonition that something bad can happen on a winter yak trip.

[top_dollar]

Ignore doug.  He is nothing more than a troll, and an unfunny one at that.  

[fishinwrench]

Statistically, here at Lake O,  1 out of 26 winter kayak outings ends on a bad note.

14 seasoned yakkers went out of Shawnee bend last week in a little derby, the wind kicked up a bit and only 11 finished the day relatively dry and unscathed.   

[Bassin4fun]

16 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

Statistically, here at Lake O,  1 out of 26 winter kayak outings ends on a bad note.

14 seasoned yakkers went out of Shawnee bend last week in a little derby, the wind kicked up a bit and only 11 finished the day relatively dry and unscathed.   

Yeah, that is the same launch area where some guys flipped during a tournament in November. Kayak tourneys typically allow you to launch from any public access point...so this tool is a must.

Windy.com

[Bassin4fun]

20 hours ago, fshndoug said:

I am pretty sure my Boston Whaler is better suited to not turning over in the wind and besides I try to have someone in the boat with me instead of being by myself. It seems as if you have a premonition that something bad can happen on a winter yak trip.

LoL

[straw hat]

FYI

"In 50 to 60 degree water, your survival time is six hours. In 40 to 50 degrees, survival time is half that — three hours. You’ll survive for one to1 1/2 hours in 35 to 40 degree water. In water less than 35 degrees, you’ll succumb fast."
https://fishingmeet.com/what-temp-can-you-get-hypothermia-in-water/

Cold shock response
The physiological response to a sudden immersion in cold water may be divided in three or four discrete stages, with different risks and physiological changes, all being part of an entity labelled as Cold Water Immersion Syndrome. Although this process is a continuum, the 4 phases was initially described in the 1980s as it follows:[3][4]

Phase                            Time                                   Physiological Changes
Initial (cold shock)    First 2 – 3 minutes         Cooling of the skin, hyperventilation, tachycardia, gasp reflex
Short-term                   After 3 minutes               Superficial neuromuscular cooling
Long-term                    After 30 min                    Hypothermia, later collapse

Circum-rescue             Immediately before,      Cardiac arrythmia, heart attack, unconsciousness, death. *
collapse                         during or after rescue    

*In cold water immersions, such as by falling through thin ice, cold shock response is perhaps the most common cause of death. Death which occurs in such scenarios is complex to investigate and there are several possible causes and phenomena that can take part. The cold water can cause heart attack due to severe vasoconstriction,[2] where the heart has to work harder to pump the same volume of blood throughout the arteries. For people with pre-existing cardiovascular disease, the additional workload can result in myocardial infarction and/or acute heart failure, which ultimately may lead to a cardiac arrest.
 

Stay safe everyone and a Merry Christmas.

[straw hat]

Also...

"Cold Immersion deaths represent the third most common cause of accidental death in adults, and the second in children, in most countries. In 2000, around 450 000 such deaths occurred worldwide, with young men and the elderly constituting the high-risk groups."

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(03)15057-X/fulltext

[Smithvillesteve]

"I didnt last very long. And studies showed that that door would not have supported both of us."

Sincerely,

Jack from the Titantic