Knots, Line, and so on

[Seth]

19 hours ago, Flysmallie said:

Those are some tough fish, carrying switchblades and all. 

Rub it on a rock or a piece of angle iron like you find on a dock. The results will be the same.

[tjm]

I guess it's because I've always used nylon that I never noticed the abrasion problem. Good to know about the spectra braid as I had considered  loading a spinning reel with it.

[BilletHead]

31 minutes ago, tjm said:

I guess it's because I've always used nylon that I never noticed the abrasion problem. Good to know about the spectra braid as I had considered  loading a spinning reel with it.

                 All those super braids are like this. I still use them in certain places when you might find me using conventional gear. I do like it for backing on fly reels where you can't get enough regular dacron on them. I have been spooled in fast water by big hybrids even with I could not boat moving to follow fast enough. The stuff is great in open water though. 

   You all should be using the heavy braids where you can set the hook hard like the pros and cross that bass's eyes yanking them into the boat!

[Mitch f]

1 hour ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

So back to what you were doing 😁

Well i did have a couple of shots of bourbon 🥃 last night! 😂

[tjm]

57 minutes ago, BilletHead said:

 All those super braids

I should have said PE braids, but I tend to call it all Spectra, and forget that much of it is Dynema. I put some on a few fly reels a year or so ago, although I've never seen the backing except when changing lines.

I've used heavy nylon squiding/fishing  braid in my chalk boxes and for layout lines for about 50 years on all kinds or commercial and residential construction and fraying from abrasion has never been a thing. It makes a lot cleaner line than twisted string and  wastes less chalk. Tests that I've read about found very little difference in abrasion resistance between nylon monofilament and fluorocarbon monofilament regardless of the marketing claims, but since I wasn't having abrasion problems, I didn't think too much about it.

[Mitch f]

4 hours ago, tjm said:

Tests that I've read about found very little difference in abrasion resistance between nylon monofilament and fluorocarbon monofilament regardless of the marketing claims, but since I wasn't having abrasion problems, I didn't think too much about it.

Yea, I pretty much agree with you on this. The diameter of the line has the most to do with abrasion resistance from what I’ve read. 
ps. I misread this earlier, I was driving and picking up my little ones. I do think fluoro is more dense and therefore more abrasion resistant but within each type of line the diameter seems to be the biggest factor. 

[nomolites]

1 hour ago, Mitch f said:

Yea, I pretty much agree with you on this. The diameter of the line has the most to do with abrasion resistance from what I’ve read. 

I’m with Wrench here….have a big fish drag you up and down a dock cable and you WILL see the difference; flouro outperforms everything else.

Mike

[Mitch f]

21 minutes ago, nomolites said:

I’m with Wrench here….have a big fish drag you up and down a dock cable and you WILL see the difference; flouro outperforms everything else.

Mike

Oh, I totally agree with you on that. I wasn’t referring to floral versus mono. I just meant a bigger diameter versus a smaller diameter. there’s definitely a difference difference between floral and mono. I should’ve been more clear and misread his post

[Al Agnew]

Well, I fish docks about once every two years, if that; if I had to fish Lake of the Ozarks all the time I'd maybe take up golf...nah, not even that would make me take up golf.  But maybe pickle ball.

The older I get, the simpler I like to keep things.  I've used McCoys Mean Green copoly line like forever, seems like.  Is it the best line out there?  Who knows...I doubt if any of us has tried them all in a scientific setting.  But I know how McCoys works (better, by the way, for my purposes than the Maxima I used to use, so at least I know that much).  I know its strengths and its limitations, and work within them.  As long as they don't change the formula I'll keep using 8-14 pound McCoys on every baitcast reel I own.  And since I haven't even thrown a spinning outfit in at least a couple years, I don't have to worry about braid and leaders and such...but if I did, I'd still be using Power Pro braid with no leader (not because I love Power Pro or braid in general--I don't--but because braid is the best way to avoid the complications that come with the inevitable line twist with spinning reels (which is still a big part of the reason I stopped using spinning reels--but getting back to the dock fishing, if I had to fish docks I'd still be using spinning outfits, because it's so much easier to skip stuff under docks with it).

My fly fishing tippet is fluorocarbon except for dry flies.  Not because I'm concerned about visibility but because fluoro does seem to be more abrasion resistant and I have fewer break-offs with fluoro.  Of course, I don't use it with dry flies because it sinks, and pulls the fly down.

And I've already discussed the knots I use.  I don't care if they are the best knots to use; they are easy to tie, strong enough, and I know their limitations as well, and work within those limitations.  Now if somebody actually shows me a way to do something that is demonstrably better AND just about as easy, I'll consider switching.  But I'd rather play around with lures and lure modifications to improve my fishing...it's more fun.

[snagged in outlet 3]

5 hours ago, Mitch f said:

Well i did have a couple of shots of bourbon 🥃 last night! 😂

Pretty timely video 😆