Don't shoot the messenger just sharing and making us think.

[DADAKOTA]

I'm all for catch and release immediately tournaments, but they have their own difficulties including cheating.  Catch and weigh derbies still have cheaters, rule benders, and ethical problems.  I could care less about FFS unless I have to compete against them. Heck, I wish the A-rig was illegal.  On the winter river derbies, I wonder about the mortality of fish taken from a wintering hole and let go miles away at the put in. 

 

Sure seems that the anti-FFS bandwagon has no issues with technological advances in SI/DI graphs, 360,  boats, motors, trolling motors, rods, reels, and baits.  All of which make it easier to find and catch fish.  FFS has made quite a few folks more efficient fishermen than they were before FFS.  The amount of crappie stockpiled by some dock owners at LOZ would boggle one's mind.  

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1 hour ago, DADAKOTA said:

On the winter river derbies, I wonder about the mortality of fish taken from a wintering hole and let go miles away at the put in. 

That’s my big complaint. Haul/culling. 👎

[tjm]

1 hour ago, DADAKOTA said:

The amount of crappie stockpiled by some dock owners

can't be more than 60 each, 'cause more than that someone would have turned them in as poachers, right?

33 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

That’s my big complaint. Haul/culling. 👎

“Those caught and released immediately had 1.3% mortality, bass caught, held and culled had 14.9% mortality, and fish brought to weigh-in had 39.1% mortality. The researcher in charge stated that bass mortality due to tournaments can be much higher than many fishermen believe.” https://usangler.com/bass-mortality-post-tournament/

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6 minutes ago, tjm said:

can't be more than 60 each, 'cause more than that someone would have turned them in as poachers, right?

Crappie are probably the most poached game animal in America.   Stocked trout second I think.  

[tjm]

Is that because fish and game departments allow it or because friends and neighbors encourage it?

https://mdc.mo.gov/about-us/about-regulations/operation-game-thief

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If you witness or suspect a wildlife violation, report it to your local conservation agent or call the OGT 24-hour, toll-free number — 800-392-1111. You may remain anonymous, and you may be considered for a reward.

Is stealing fish any better than armed robbery or burglary or other theft? a thief is a thief by any other name?

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33 minutes ago, tjm said:

Is that because fish and game departments allow it or because friends and neighbors encourage it?

https://mdc.mo.gov/about-us/about-regulations/operation-game-thief

Is stealing fish any better than armed robbery or burglary or other theft? a thief is a thief by any other name?

I don’t know but I’ve called in a couple people the past year or so.  There’s a friend of a friend who brags about how many crappie he poaches.   I will call him if I’m ever sure he is in possession.  

[dan hufferd]

3 hours ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

how many crappie he poaches

Not only that you should see how many bass get netted from the streams and river around Carthage.

There are folks from Southern countries netting bass with reckless abandon and keeping everything.

The local authorities know about it, but cannot stop them.

It's crazy over here !  

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36 minutes ago, dan hufferd said:

Not only that you should see how many bass get netted from the streams and river around Carthage.

There are folks from Southern countries netting bass with reckless abandon and keeping everything.

The local authorities know about it, but cannot stop them.

It's crazy over here !  

I hear that a lot lately.  I can’t stand poaching.