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3 hours ago, Johnsfolly said:

Dave what is interesting to me is that unlike the central US where most streams/rivers ultimately end up in the Mississippi which would allow for some gene flow, the rivers on the east coast are not as interconnected. I can't think of more than a hand full of rivers that traverse more than three states in a north to south direction. Most seem to go from the NE to the SW and into the ocean. Mainly originating from the Appalachian mountain range. The redbreast sunfish in GA are as isolated from those up here in MD as they are to those in TX.

Good point.  The east coast populations do seem isolated from each other.  I wonder how most of those species have managed to stay largely the same?  The Redbreast in Texas haven't been there terribly long... introduced around 1925... not nearly long enough to be genetically different enough to be considered a separate species.  But interbreeding from probably a rather limited number of initial stockers might speed up the process.

 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, FishnDave said:

Good point.  The east coast populations do seem isolated from each other.  I wonder how most of those species have managed to stay largely the same?  The Redbreast in Texas haven't been there terribly long... introduced around 1925... not nearly long enough to be genetically different enough to be considered a separate species.  But interbreeding from probably a rather limited number of initial stockers might speed up the process.

 

 

They still occupy similar ecological niches. There may not be enough adaptive pressure for true speciation. I would still like to see what the genetics look like,

Posted
34 minutes ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

 

         You have to target vegan fish!

"We have met the enemy and it is us",

Pogo

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Posted
On 7/22/2025 at 4:26 PM, BilletHead said:

         You have to target vegan fish!

I do!  Grass Carp.  Caught 3 on Saturday morning.

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Plus a drum and a rather dark-colored common carp.

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Posted

Nice grass carp @FishnDave! I have a spot down in Houston that if I have the time will try again to catch a grass carp. I still have the jigs/flies that you gave us. 

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