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    Missouri Trout Fishing

    in Trout Talk

    Posted

    On 4/16/2024 at 9:23 AM, Foghorn said:

    Roaring River is easier to fish  because the only areas you need waders is their C&R area and the section below it to the start of the fly zone. Susie and I fished both Roaring and Bennett last Friday and Saturday and they fished about the same. The flies/lures that the guys here recommended will all work well. Bennett has a lot of construction going on above the big bridge upstream to above the dam that knocks out some quality water but there's enough water still yet to have a good day fishing. There are a lot of decent and reasonable places to stay around both parks. We stayed at Roaring River Resort  while at Roaring and roughed it at the Holiday Inn in Lebanon. With Bennett's hatchery shutdown, the size of the stockers are a little on the small size . Good luck and let us know how you do.  

    Agree here. Roaring is way more personal and easier to access . 

    On killing trout (or any fish imo)

    in Conservation Issues

    Posted

    1 hour ago, FishnDave said:

    PSA/FYI:

    MDC-run hatcheries produce (in addition to trout) paddlefish, hybrid striped bass, striped bass, muskellunge, largemouth bass, bluegills, hybrid sunfish, grass carp, walleye, pallid sturgeon, and catfish.  Maybe other fish too, but these were listed on the various MDC warmwater hatchery websites.

    My point exactly. Alas we will never agree on this collectively

    On killing trout (or any fish imo)

    in Conservation Issues

    Posted

    30 minutes ago, Flysmallie said:

    Not true at all. The most pursued fish in Missouri have no stocking 

    Which fish do you refer to? Large mouth are protected by length limits and bag limits and are among the most abundant fish isohr great state. They are not stocked but reproduce very quickly and are managed fir recreational purposes. I see the point al was making but think perhaps it's a possibility that the revenue created as well as the life long memories are worth the concerns

    On killing trout (or any fish imo)

    in Conservation Issues

    Posted

    On 3/30/2024 at 10:09 PM, Al Agnew said:

    I've thought a lot about this as well, and my thoughts align fairly closely with those of the author of the article.  We really ARE playing with our food.  We really ARE causing a lot of stress on the critters we catch for no good reason other than our own pleasure.  And the better the angler, the more fish he's killing by "accident".  All the studies show that delayed mortality after being caught runs somewhere between 5 and 15%.  Even if you are as careful as possible, if you have a day where you catch 50 bass, you're killing somewhere between 2 and 8 of them even if you release every one.  Heck, I have the occasional 100 fish day, and even though I don't think I'm badly injuring many of them, I'm probably killing at least as many of them as my daily limit would be anyway.

    But there is always a difference between consideration for individual fish, and consideration for the POPULATION of the fish you seek.  Worry too much about the lives and comfort of each individual fish and you go the way of the animal rights folks.  I prefer to consider the population of bass in the streams I fish as a resource.  I do what I can to protect that resource, and don't worry about the individual fish I catch except to handle them as carefully as possible if I plan to release them...because the point of releasing them is to keep them in the population, so it behooves us to give them the best chance to stay healthy.

    To that end, I think that the ethical angler learns as much as he can about the population of the fish he seeks in the waters he seeks.  The beginning of ethics is to follow the regulations, but it's not the be-all.  Most regulations are one size fits all, and most waters are not the same.  It might very well be that some fish need to be culled in some waters, up to the legal limit, while in other waters if everybody kept a legal limit the fishery would soon be horrible.

    I love to eat freshwater fish.  And I eat them about every other week, and several at a sitting.  In one way, the invasion of spotted bass in my home rivers has been great; I can kill a dozen spotted bass whenever I want a great meal or two.  I haven't eaten a smallmouth or largemouth from any of these waters in more years than I can remember, but I've sure eaten a pile of spotted bass.  I also eat smaller bass from ponds that need thinning, and a few crappie and bluegill meals whenever I get the chance.

    I can't whole heartedly agree with this. If that many fish were killed the banks would b lined with dead fish from start to finish. I do agree people kill some fish but 15 percent is out of line with reality . 5 percent is a stretch. We stock most of the fish pursued in recreational ways anymore anyway so I don't think there is a real harm. We raise cattle and we are very kind to them from the moment of birth. We still eat them but no need to shock or beat an animal. People are too disconnected from where our food comes from . You've got politicians saying we don't need farms just go to grocery store 😂 this is real 

    Anyone still fish here???

    in Sac & Little Sac Rivers

    Posted

    20 hours ago, Ryan Miloshewski said:

    Water is really low for fishing Sac and Little Sac this year. I know plenty that are catching them out of boats in deeper holes. I've fished it 3-4 times and have only (I say only in jest) caught smallmouth. 

    Ryan I've nevr had much luck on the whites on little sac in lower water.  There is a sweet spot where the feeders are running but running clear and the main is a little dirty green . 

    Crane bucket list!!!

    in Crane Creek

    Posted

    On 4/7/2024 at 9:54 AM, BadKarma said:

    Finally had a chance to go to Crane Creek. Looking to check off a bucket list item. Went to the 2nd crossing above the city park. Walked down about 25 yards to a nice size pool. Sat and watched and saw they were sipping off the surface.  I brought my 9' tenkara rod and tried a few drys. Finally attracted some attention with a size 14 brown Elkhair Caddis. In 25 mins. I caught 2!!!! Biggest was about 10 inches. 

    With my health issues, I was extremely happy 😊.  

    Elk hair caddis is by far most productive dry on crane. Nymph would be olive woolly bugger. Glad you got out there. I believe I'll be headed down there sometime soon

      

    2024 Cicada Hatch

    in Upper Lake Taneycomo

    Posted

    On 3/6/2024 at 2:26 AM, fishinwrench said:

    What are they basing this hatch prediction on?    If it's just "time" then they're just being stupid.   

    Cicada's hatch every year, to a degree.   I feel like trying to accurately predict a massive substantial hatch is like playing roulette.   

    We'll see..... 🤔 

     

    Horsefly's, grasshoppers, and junebugs were notably scarce around here last year......and nobody bothered to predict THAT !    

    We had an immense grasshopper season last year and year before here in southwest mo

    Not fishing as much...

    in General Angling Discussion Archives

    Posted

    On 2/19/2024 at 12:21 PM, Daryk Campbell Sr said:

    My kids are getting to a place where I can get more time away, and hopefully I get my canoe done by spring.   That will open a but of opportunity for me to get out more than years past.   I am also no longer needing to work 2 jobs, that takes a lot of time from hobbies.  As Snagged mentioned,  the waters near me are so low, I'm not sure how well I'll be able to paddle. We will see.  

    My kid is getting to be a good size now as well. When we were kids we lived near water and my da tok us from the time we could walk but now i live a ways away from any grea lt water and my wife is a worry wart. Hopefully I'll get to take my boy this year a least to our fam ponds

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