Devan S.

I wouldn't begin to trust an accredited engineer. At the end they were the final call in the Hyatt Regency walkway collapse. I certainly wouldn't trust one based on videos and pictures analysis. Anything can be edited in 2001. Of all the tin foil hat conspiracies....why this one?

The comments on the FB post had me cracking up. The fly fishing crowd that is out targeting these fish in lowish water quality conditions, playing these fish for as long as possible to actually wear them down to land them on light tackle, and then chastise someone when one dies is nearly as hypocritical as it comes.

I have no knowledge what any internal component is likely to be running. I assume they would be at least or couple or more times hotter than ambient air or lake water. However @fishinwrench brings up the best point in that a cars system is closed and uses the radiator to remove latent heat from the system. You effectively have multiple points of thermal transfer(hot component to water, water to radiator, radiator to ambient) Outboards are constantly pulling new water and therefore your coolant is effectively never building heat through multiple cycles. Once its through the entire system its pushed out into the lake fresh water at lake temperature is pull in.

Out of curiosity....I thought Jeff's catch of the Striper was below houseman? If so did it just get labeled Beaver Tailwater to avoid the perception of tons of striper in TRL. Anybody that fished Beaver TW will tell you there are striper there but unless you like headaches and heartbreaks, then I wouldn't base a single decision about where I live on that fishery alone. Sure a nice by catch but nothing to write home or make a special trip over. Honestly the same with the trout.

Its been awhile but leather wood is reasonably small and idle speed means fairly safe. Between HI and Housman there isn't much. @rps will trump anything I say by far. He lived and breathed that area for years. Going out of Holiday Island marina and toward Beaver....the first straight. I think there is some submerged timber on the right minimal at 918' but maybe at 911 or less could be an issue I'm not sure.....right down the middle should be fine. After that.....a big flat on the left side again going upstream. Google earth and roll back the image to 2006....this is a low water and will show you the flat....again little issue at 915 down the middle. Really for the most part after this the area behaves very much like a river.....deep side channel to outside and flat to inside. Google earth is your friend here too. To houseman there isn't much. A few flats but they are fairly obvious and at 918' certainly deep enough to run. Without generation I can make it past the old bridge piers with them running 3000 cfs at Beaver and without trimming up my motor. I did this last weekend so this is pretty fresh: To 62 @ 918 no biggie there is a big flat below but its obvious. At the old bridge piers its shallow and frankly without generation it would have been a tight squeeze. This area is circled fairly large flat....obviously idle speed. Above this we hugged the right bank going upstream. We stayed right at the island and was able to make it right to the top of the island marked across by red. I think I could have made it through at 918 and 3000 cfs release from Beaver but I don't know what it gains me. I may have made it to bertand but certain I could not make it to parker bottoms. I have an xpress bass boat so fairly shallow running but not jet boat/flat bottom extreme. this should get you started.

Dang never better an answer.....one thing I will add..... For those of us UNDER retirement age.....location to work is important...not so much location to our hobbies. I have no problem packing up on a Saturday and driving 3-4 hours one way to fish a crowded creek because my time and days are limited to the same as the bulk of the population. I don't like it but until I strike it rich or find a Saturday-Sunday gig that pays the same as Mon-Fri then that is what I'll do. For those of you at retirement ago....my philosophy is live where there are usable infrastructure for when you are no longer capable.....doctors, hospitals, shopping, airports if those are remotely important to you. If fishing is the only infrastructure then you wouldn't be asking the question, you would know Mtn. Home is the better location. You have the ability to take off Mon-Fri morning and drive to CC, BS, Norfolk, White River, Buffalo, and Kings from Rogers and fish all day without being in the flotilla or mob of fishermen like it will be on Saturday-Sunday.

We would expect nothing less from you.

about 15ish miles

As evidenced by my usage of your or you're, I am not that smart. I am is an engineer. I do know the difference just being quick didn't double check. Also I only "knew" the answer because I saw it on reddit last week.

government handouts are trashy if your poor.......government subsidies are acceptable if your well off.

A couple trout......We spent most of our time trolling cranks looking for walleye.

The fog...the darkness...the bats....the rocks......the noise of the birds......fairly sure we even heard foxes......its all disorienting and keeps you on edge. Add in leaky waders and shivering cold in August and 10/10 would do it again. There is a really nice pack of bucks hanging out at the ponds between hatchery and boat ramp......

Fished Saturday between Beaver town and spider creek up the white........5 ski boats above beaver bridge. An entire crew of jet skis at and above houseman......and what looked like a smaller catamaran/outboard style speed boat.....get this ABOVE the big pillars past the HWY 62 bridge.

Good Luck.....we slung em Friday night....Buddy caught a 23" brown, 21" brown, 18" rainbow, and I hooked and had a rainbow bigger than the big brown pull off right at the net. First time wading down there and first time night fishing too....needless to say we're hooked.

Chemistry was the bane of existence for me. Physics, math, statics, dynamics, all made sense. Heck even thermodynamics while hard made sense.....chemistry just never worked in my brain.

Engineering Management is a good route. I was given a lot of flack at Rolla for taking the "easy" way out between 2008 and 2012 probably still the same stigma today. The hardcore mechanical/electrical guys all said we weren't real engineers. The benefit is you aren't at all locked into anything specific. I use my EMAN coursework 10 to 1 in the real world vs. sitting behind a desk doing true core engineering work.

I floated that stretch on the 25th of July just under 100 cfs. We bumped and banged a lot but only really had to step out a time or 2. now 90cfs vs. 100cfs doesn't seem like much but it is 10%ish.

For me home is hard to beat....I've always said it was God's Country but Canada and the fishing a so gosh darn close its not funny. Would go back in a heart beat.

We caught one of those stripers Sunday below river of life. Weighed 7lbs......I'm certainly glad I didn't hook it on my 3 wt. I'm 100% sure it was not the biggest one in that hole either. Probably took 5-10 minutes of chasing it while wading to get it headfirst into the small trout net.

Me too. I think the guy is about half looney and exaggerates a bit personally but there is just enough corroboration for me to suspect that he knows something. Although as open as he has been about supposed highly classified information, I'm not sure how he is alive.

Well today I finished the Blue Ribbon Slam....its been fun. A lot of exploring and gave me reason to check out places I wouldn't have otherwise. Back in late June we floated Eleven Point....Caught our trout, caught a chain pickerel, checked out turner, checked our Greer. Neat place but is a long drive from Cassville and makes for a long day. Will camp next time. Floated NFOW today and it was a good day. Caught striper or hybrid, caught my one trout and some smallies. Again its a long haul and not a good way to get there......86 to 160 is a long curvy ride even for people who grew up here. Both these streams fished completely different to me then the other 7. Although the ability to target more species made them a lot more fun and interesting. Plus we got to break out the canoes/kayaks.

Does the gill thing not happen over at Beaver?

Goodness.....that is a nice double. Looks like your having a good time.

To answer your question on how speed plays a factor in it. I think there is 2 schools of thought: 1. release as soon as possible and hope the fish still has the strength to swim down against their air bladder. Assuming they are strong enough to swim against the inflated bladder and can get to depth fast enough it will remedy their problem. It might be like you and I trying to fight against maybe a pool noodle....At first you may be able to get it down but if you cant after awhile you just die from fighting it in low oxygen water. 2. Haul them around in improved condition water with clips on the fins to keep them upright until the air naturally has time to equalize to the lower pressure and then release them. Again this entirely dependent on having good water. Outside of that it is fizz them or people sometimes put them in an upside down weighted clothes basket and send em back down. Also the speed with which they are brought up plays a factor too. The faster they come up the less time they have to adjust themselves......the slower the better job they can do on their own.

Perfect. Exactly why you constantly release "breath" if you have to bail at depth while SCUBA diving.