Well, @Bassin4fun you have done well and inspired me to give it a try. went twice, had 2 keepers along with several shorts. Next time didn't do well at all. caught most on the wacky worm or other type of bottom bait. Seemed like they were slow you had to let it sit awhile but once they took it they held on to it. The bait fish were out in the channel on the surface so maybe soomething swam out deeper would work. too late now I pulled the paddle john off the trailer.It's at duck camp now with my layout boat on it.